[MD] NYT: The Feminine Critique

Akshay Peshwe akshay.infosys at gmail.com
Mon Nov 5 04:05:31 PST 2007


>I may not have any answers, but I'm certainly not going to trust yours.

I never ask anyone to believe what I say, I do not even expect them too. Let
me ask you though to not dismiss my opinions as mere Eastern dogma.

I've been through all the atheist rebellions against the religion I was
given (I was born into legal religious status of Hindu). I openly rejected
religion and mocked all of spirituality. This was when I was at the peak of
my teenage (11-15). However, in the past year, I've made some incredible
progress and have come to the realization that the philosophy and way of
living of Bharata is the highest. India is the mother of all civilisation.
Yes, this is a proposition that I would have ridiculed (even though I've
always held an Indian passport), but now I find myself agreeing 100% with
such a proposition. If you ask why India is such a screwed up place now, it
is only because of Western imperialism (and the continuing ignorance of the
masses), and I'm sure the West is going to get the fruits of their karma, so
there's no point condemning the West or trying to wage wars against it.

I assure you that you will finally realize the greatness of Bharata's
civilization, although now you may feel completely in opposition, which is
understandable considering all the cultural programming that goes on there.
All of modern Western science is trash compared to Eastern wisdom. On a
related note, my views are in no way a product of the cultural programming
that goes on here in India, because the cultural programming here is about
aping the West and still boasting about how India "got the British Empire
down to its knees", has "made tremendous economic progress", "has a rich
culture", "has the highest percentage of smart people", etc. which is
complete idiocy, because it does not look beyond 1000 years of Indian
history.

>Are women still expected to
>through themselves on the fire of their burning husbands?

No, and what you are referring to is India (derived from Greek "Inde"), not
Bharata (whose true spirit has been that of Dharma).

Akshay




On 05/11/2007, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>
> At 06:00 AM 11/5/2007, you wrote:
> > > What man on this earth has the right to speak for women, when women
> have
> >lost
> > > the ability to speak for themselves?
> >
> >How distant is that from being a stereotypical statement? In a country
> such
> >as yours (which I presume is the US or in the EU), there is absolutely no
> >concern about women not being able to express themselves. "Democracy is
> our
> >foundation" says the West, and so goes the West teaching the world how to
> >live. Where's the democracy now? Look at the countries in the mideast
> >where women don't even have freedom in clothing, let alone speech or
> >rebellious action. And obviously, no person is ever made up completely of
> >Yin or Yang. What matters is the proportion.
> >
> >Women can't speak for themselves? Either that means an inherent flaw or
> an
> >imposition.
>
> Either, or?
>
> >The former, you'll disagree with. The latter, there simply is
> >little room for that argument, especially in a Western country, where
> >freedom of speech is embedded deeply in the constitution and legal
> practice.
>
> You will not hear me defend this democratic-oligarchy.  It is social
> level illusion.
>
> >In countries like India, although there's constitutional democracy,
> because
> >of all the corruption, if even a member of the parliament speaks against
> an
> >opponent, he's sure to receive threats. But this is 21st century India,
> >Britannia's legacy. If you look at the earlier India there was a perfect
> >constitution (Manu Smriti).
>
> I have always wished to visit India.  Are women still expected to
> through themselves on the fire of their burning husbands?
>
>
> >"Europe is nothing but a jagged promonitory of Asia" -- Will Durant
> >
> >Akshay
>
> I have no answers, but many questions.  I have been trying to
> descend, but I seem to be buoyant.  All I get is 'it's not this, it's
> not that, it's not the other'.  But I keep remembering, '... if that
> which you seek you find not within yourself, you will never find it
> without.'
>
> I may not have any answers, but I'm certainly not going to trust yours.
>
> Marsha
>
>
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