[MD] The Oriental intellect(ual) level
skutvik at online.no
skutvik at online.no
Thu Nov 8 01:42:26 PST 2007
All MOQ discuss. Akshay the Hindu in particular.
The question (sparked by Pirsig's letter to Paul Turner) about a
(separate) Oriental intellectual level has intrigued me ever since.
"The argument that Oriental cultures would not be
classified as intellectual is avoided by pointing out that
the Oriental cultures developed an intellectual level
independently of the Greeks during the Upanishadic
period of India at about 1000 to 600 B.C. (These dates
may be off.)"
Paul addressed Pirsig due to a prolonged discussion over my
thesis that the Intellectual level emerged with the Greeks and
consequently=SOM. Pirsig's answer however leaves the issue as
enigmatic as ever. For instance no one has argued that "Oriental
cultures can't be classified as intellectual", as for me I have just
argued that intellect=S/O and if so it's S/O be it in India or on the
far side of the moon.
As I interpret things he (inadvertently) admits that the Greeks
"developed" intellect (meaning =SOM) and that the Upanishads
period corresponds to the Greeks' albeit "independently". Then
the question is what the Upanishads period is/was in the Indian
culture? In LILA he says:
"But what made the Hindu experience so profound was
that this decay of Dynamic Quality into static quality was
not the end of the story. Following the period of the
Brahmanas came the Upanisadic period and the flowering
of Indian philosophy. Dynamic Quality re-emerged within
the static patterns of Indian thought."
Even if this is at the end of the book I believe it's from an earlier
stage while the Dynamic/Static relationship was the big issue,
thus "this decay of Dynamic Quality into static quality" is without
reference to any particular level.
Yet, what does it say in a MOQ context? If "decay" means static
"this decay"=the social level, must be if "the Upanishadic
period"= the intellectual level. Thus "... the flowering of Indian
philosophy" corresponds to the flowering of Greek philosophy and
that it resulted in an "Indian SOM". Any thoughts?
Bo
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