[MD] subject/object: pragmatism

[Ron Kulp]

Gav,
I agree with your assessment I'm not so sure others do.
Between you and me, I'm waiting to get thrown down the steps
About it.  I think we're on to an understanding that will
Deepen the awareness of MoQ. And what it offers.
At least for me.
-thanks Gav



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Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism

ron:
 
> Gosh Krim, the more I toy with this the more I see intellectual
 coming
> BEFORE social. Intellectual was the domain of priests shaman and
 chiefs
> Before the age of universities and an educated citizenry! I keep
 trying to
> save the hierarchy but it keeps collapsing like A house of cards
 where
> intellect is concerned.


like i said before (maybe too freeform?)....
intelligence comes before the social; intellect comes after.
intelligence comes before everything. the mythos is intelligence. the
mythos creates everything - the world is created by the mythos. this is
a key point. it is necessary not only to understand pirsig but also,
crucially, it allows us to grasp indigenous metaphysics. by reconnecting
to our pagan origins we are reconnected to the earth and all life on it.
we see, we feel (which means we know) our identity with it all. unity.
the end of alienation.

shamans work with and through the mythos. they put themselves in accord
with divine intelligence and become a vehicle for it.

hope this clears it up.




      
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