[MD] subject/object: pragmatism

[David M]

Hi Matt

Don't we postulate that rather than experience it?
It explains some of the stuff we experience, but not
an object of direct experience surely?

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Kundert" <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism



Hey Ron,

Ron said:
Matt, if Quality is reality which equates to experience is reality,
Would you agree that pre-intellect would equate to pre-experience
At this angle?


Matt:
No, I don't think so.  I'm not sure what angle you're at, but pre-intellect 
being pre-experience sounds like idealism, the kind Pirsig flirted with in 
his discourse on ghosts in the beginning of ZMM, because if experience is 
reality, then before intellect there was nothing.  I don't think that's 
right.  One of the things we know about the world, through experience, is 
that it's been around a lot longer than us, language and a lot of other 
things.

Matt

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