[MD] Contradiction

[MarshaV]

Gav,

Don't get yourself in a tizzy, I was trying to be politically correct 
and not offend Bo or Platt by mentioning a Eastern Philosopher 
without a reference to RMP.  But I do think somewhere RMP mentions 
Krishnamurti, but I can't remember where.  Like with Nietzsche, I've 
read everything Krishnamurti has written.  I find he cuts to the 
heart of the matter.

Marsha


At 05:18 AM 11/13/2007, you wrote:
>yes!!!!!!
>yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>I hope RMP will approve.
>
>A couple of other quotes by Jiddu Krishnamurti follow:
>
>Perhaps you have never experienced that state of mind in which there
>is total abandonment of everything, a complete letting go. And you
>cannot abandon everything without deep passion, can you? You cannot
>abandon everything intellectually or emotionally. There is total
>abandonment, surely, only when there is intense passion. Don't be
>alarmed by that word, because a man who is not passionate, who is not
>intense, can never understand or feel the quality of beauty. The mind
>that holds something in reserve, the mind that has a vested interest,
>the mind that clings to position, power, prestige, the mind that is
>respectable, which is a horror - such a mind can never abandon itself.
>
>In the state of passion without a cause there is intensity free of
>all attachment; but when passion has a cause, there is attachment,
>and attachment is the beginning of sorrow. Most uf us are attached,
>we cling to a person, to a country, to a belief, to an idea, and when
>the object of our attachment is taken away or otherwise loses its
>significance, we find ourselves empty, insufficient. This emptiness
>we try to fill by clinging to something else, which again becomes the
>object of our passion. Examine your own heart and mind. I am merely a
>mirror in which you are looking at yourself. If you don't want to
>look, that is quite all right; but if you do want to look, then look
>at yourself clearly, ruthlessly, with intensity - not in hope of
>dissolving your miseries, your anxieties, your sense of guilt, but in
>order to understand this extraordinary passion which always leads to
>sorrow. When passion has a cause it becomes lust. When there is
>passion for something - for a person, for an idea, for some kind of
>fulfillment - then out of that passion there comes contradiction,
>conflict, effort. You strive to achieve or maintain a particular
>state, or to recapture one that has been and is gone. But the passion
>of which I am speaking does not give rise to contradiction, conflict.
>It is totally unrelated to a cause, and therefore it is not an effect.
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