[MD] subject/object: pragmatism

[ian glendinning]

Hi David,

Yes.
(ie a key thing is that "freedom" of expression and rationale, free of
calls to authority or tradition, and pragmatically and cooperatively
motivated towards "value".)

And Yes.
(to your other mail - wisdom and rhetoric - I was illustrating that
there are few hard and fast, objective, definitional distinctions
between intellectual and social. Just pragmatic ones.)

Ian

On 11/14/07, David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>  Hi Ian, all
>
> Ain't it just about some guy or girl standing up
> and putting their argument and resisting trying to
> justify what they are saying by any religion, or
> divine right, or tradition, or power, or authority,
> etc, and just saying this is how I think we should
> describe and understand things, and its better than
> the other ways I know of, and it fits in well with this
> other stuff we agree about, and it seems to make
> sense of my experience, and your experience,
> and our experience, and look we might be able
> to give it a go, and we may even be able to use
> this approach to bring about stuff in a certain way
> that would be good for us, given what we value,
> and so I ain't no prophet, I ain't no king, I ain't
> your boss, I'm just a guy who makes up good ideas,
> I'm a god damn intellectual, and I can't make you
> do these things, but come on let's agree to do it.
>
> Ta
> David M
>