[MD] Tao through intellect...

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone


> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:05:02 -0500
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> From: marshalz at charter.net
> Subject: Re: [MD] Tao through intellect...
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> How in the world does the TAO relate to the MOQ? 

Hi Marsha

Tao:
The Tao that can be told of
Is not the Absolute Tao;

MOQ:
The quality that can be told of
Is not Dynamic Quality.

Tao:
The Names that can be given
Are not Absolute Names.

MOQ:
Static quality patterns of value defined
Are not Dynamic Quality.
 
Tao:
The Nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth;
The Named is the Mother of All Things.

MOQ:
Dynamic Quality is the origin of Heaven and Earth
Static quality is the Mother of All Things.

>Marsha:
>That patterns
> (inorganic, biological, social & intellectual) are what they
> are! Are they evolving and interrelated (conditional)
> patterns? Yes?

Dan:
I think everything evolves and fades away. Everything is conditional. So yes, I would say yes.

>Marsha:
>But beyond that, what is to be done? What does the
> MOQ suggest an individual do? 

Dan:
Become better. 

>Marsha:
>SA's poetry seems the best thread of
> actual purpose on the forum. 

Dan:
I would respectfully suggest it is a matter of opinion as to what is the best.

>Marsha:
>And there are many other random
> patterns of interest. Occasionally Dan shares his beautiful words
> with us. But not enough.

Dan:
Why thank you Marsha! That is very kind of you. I find that while I enjoy reading the posts here, often times I have little or nothing to say -- so it seems better to simply be quiet. I tend to write a great deal and occasionally something surfaces that seems worth sharing.

>Marsha:
>Others offer insight.
> Btw, is there a definition for intelligence, intellect and the
> composition of the Intellectual Level yet?

Dan:
The dictionary seems to offer good definitions. 

>Marsha:
> What can be done? What can I (this constellation of ever-changing,
> inter-related static patterns of value) do? What can one contribute
> to this forum in a meaningful way?

Dan:
I guess we all leave something of value here... our thoughts.

>Marsha:
> There's Ghostbusters. Should there be Patternbusters?

Dan:
Perhaps.

>Marsha:
> Does anything really mean anything? Really?

Dan:
The world is full of meaning. Maybe the problem occurs when we try to find meaning in the meaning. This zen story comes to mind:

A cat who lived at a monastary developed the annoying habit of jumping upon the head roshi's lap each time he sat down to meditate. Aggravated, one day he told a monk, "Tie up that pesky cat so we can meditate in peace!" The monk did as he was told and each time before the meditation took place, the monk dutifully tied up the cat. 

Years later when the cat died the monastary acquired another cat to tie up while the meditation was going on. Even after the old head roshi himself passed away, the monks continued the practice of tying up the cat so they could better meditate. Centuries later, many learned theses were written on the value of tying up a cat prior to meditation. 

Thanks again,

Dan