[MD] subject/object: pragmatism
skutvik at online.no
skutvik at online.no
Sun Nov 25 03:05:43 PST 2007
Hi Spirits (SA)
On Nov. 23 you said:
> Bo, if I finally have figured out what your saying, then blow me down!
> When you say 'moq' could I instead say 'quality' or 'dynamic quality'?
> I'll wait for your answer before I conclude if I have finally reached
> the point where I understand you.
When I say MOQ I mean "Quality Reality" because the opening
postulate is "Quality is Reality". This is a bit cumbersome, hence
MOQ which has replaced the SOM as reality.
> [SA previously]
> > > Is it pure experience/direct experience?
> [Bo]
> > Of course. We know from ZAMM that Phaedrus reached
> > the
> > insight that some pure - direct - experience
> > preceded (what he
> > called) "intellect" (much like Poincare's "beauty"
> > and James'
> > "aesthetic continuum") this was what later became
> > Dynamic
> > Quality so DQ=pure experience=direct experience.
You found this making sense, but then you ought to agree with my
SOL (intellect=S/O) because - as said - ZAMM's first notion was that of
a "pre-intellectual/intellectual" reality in contrast to the reigning
"subject/object" one. The pre-intellectual something (that he called
Quality) spawns Intellect (which is the S/O dichotomy) thus it's plain
that Phaedrus of ZAMM saw intellect=S/O. Why Pirsig of LILA
changed this is a mystery.
Bo
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