[MD] The Top Down Fallacy

[David M]

Ham

What about pre-intellectual but differentiated experience,
like when my pre-linguistic nephew carries the same toy around for weeks,
only to suddenly move on to a new favourite?

David M


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] The Top Down Fallacy


>
> Greetings Krimel and Gav --
>
>
> [Gav]:
>> They are both relative terms. i am saying that choosing one
>> polar option or the other is the characteristic SOM approach -
>> adversarial dichotomies. pirsig's novel approach to the twin horns of
>> these dilemmas was to reject both, to go between them to the
>> unitary origin of both.
>
> [Krimel]:
>> So what's the middle way between life, intelligence and consciousness
>> growing organically as the conditions here support it and life being
>> created or managed by a higher consciousness or absolute source?
>
> [Gav]:
>> It can't be. experience is unitary and prior to polar
>> relativisation.
>
> [Krimel]:
>> You say experience is unitary. But isn't experience comprised of
>> five senses transducing energy from the environment into electro-
>> chemical patterns in the nerves. Aren't those neural patterns filtered
>> through memories and emotions and organized into a whole experience?
>
> Gentlemen, if I may interject -- your overall concept is not in dispute. 
> We
> are all in agreement that the experience of existence is "polarized",
> "dualistic", and intellectually differentiated.  We also agree that "true"
> reality is "unitary",  "whole" and non-relative.
>
> As I've suggested before, a simple re-definition of your (MoQ's) terms 
> would
> eliminate this "apparent" dilemma and the confusion that it has caused.
>
>    EXPERIENCE -- Conscious (intellectual) awareness of existence as a
> system of differentiated objects.
>
>    SENSIBILITY -- Pre-intellectual awareness of Value (i.e., "Quality") as
> a holistic (essential) reality.
>
> Try this nomenclature.  It works!  And it will resolve your dispute.
>
> Essentially yours,
> Ham
>
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