[MD] Does Quality exist?
Redsky235 at aol.com
Redsky235 at aol.com
Fri Nov 30 13:16:16 PST 2007
Pirsig only concludes that Quality is basically existence after he's
convinced himself that it exists. If Quality does not exist, the rest of his theory
is invalid. It's like saying God is equivalent to existence; therefore, God
exists.
To clarify my point: if we like certain things more because we recognize
more Quality in them, i.e., because our experiences help us relate to these
objects, then why do art connoisseurs differentiate between what's "good" and
what they "like?" For example, a critic might concede that, when it's all said
and done, "War and Peace" is the superior text, but what the heck, he likes
that mainstream Dan Brown book more. If he doesn't personally find "Quality"
in "War and Peace," he should dismiss it outright, but he doesn't. He finds
something in there that he doesn't relate to, so it's not a favorite, but he
appreciates its "value." On the other hand, a casual reader might say, "War
and Peace" bores me, so I don't like it. It's not good." How do you
reconcile this? Is the critic's opinion more valid simply because he knows more
about literature?
But say there is no such thing as Quality (we're leaving the question of
existence and reality aside for the time being). The critic and casual reader
will still appreciate their favored texts for the same reasons, namely, that
they like the texts. They can identify with the books. However, the critic
admires the historical importance of the Tolstoy book. He can point out the
precise form it's written in and he can analyze the manner in which the author
utilizes his language. He will then conclude that, based on these
(arbitrary) literary criteria, that it is, in fact, the superior tome. This has
nothing to do with any objective "quality," only the objective criteria set down
by the literary world.
In the latter scenario, Quality cannot be removed from the world because
it's simply not there. It sounds like trivia, but it seems that what Pirsig's
attempting to do on page 193 of ZMM. "If you can't distinguish between good
and bad in the arts they disappear." That's not any intrinsic "quality" he's
subtracting from the world, but rather man's capability to decide what he
likes and what he does not like, or what he appreciates versus what he doesn't.
>This isn't a valid question at all; this is realised as soon as you analyse
>the question. Quality is simply another name for Existence, because you
>start all of philosophic inquiry with one assumption, that of Existence.
>herefore, it is like asking "does existence exist?".
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