[MD] "100% confident"
Ham Priday
hampday1 at verizon.net
Tue Oct 9 22:59:03 PDT 2007
Hi Ron --
> SA,
> This is an honest inquiry;
> I see no reason why this should piss you off, if you don't dig
> What's being said then stop reading the thread.
> It's certainly no justification for an attack.
>
> Forget it, laugh away you elitist jerk.
SA is hardly an elitist, Ron. He lives in the woods, considers himself a
mystic, and throws darts at us from behind the bushes. Some people get
their jollies by taking statements out of context and poking holes in them.
There are a several here who apparently skipped Science in school and regard
metaphysics as a branch of Physics. They're looking for factual answers
about the universe and are frustrated that the intelligentsia in this forum
aren't forthcoming with them. Since intuitive concepts are new to these
folks, their first impulse is to attack the messenger. They'll quote what
Pirsig says on every issue; but, unfortunately, despite naming his
philosophy the Metaphysics of Quality, what Pirsig actually said about
metaphysics was mostly disparaging.
In Chpt. 9 of LILA, for example, he ruminates about Phaedrus (his alter-ego)
having been "forced to avoid" metaphysics when writing ZMM:
"In his book Phaedrus had tried to save Quality from metaphysics by refusing
to define it, by placing it outside the dialectical chessboard. Anything
that is undefined is outside metaphysics, since metaphysics can only
function with defined terms. If you can't define it, you can't argue about
it. ...No matter what position you take on a metaphysical question someone
will always start asking questions that will lead to more positions that
still lead to more questions in this endless intellectual chess game. The
game is supposed to stop when it is agreed that a particular line of
reasoning is illogical. But conflicting positions go on for centuries
without any such checkmate being agreed upon."
In this rare moment of reflection, I think the author revealed his Achilles
Heel: the dread of having to confront his challengers. How does he avoid
this? By turning to Indian folklore, mythology, and mysticism -- cultural
belief systems where logical definitions are not required and where poetry
can pass for philosophy. The recent BBC interview with Baggini again
demonstrated the author's annoyance with metaphysical questions and his
unwillingness to define the fundamental MoQ terms. This has to be a
shortcoming for any serious philosopher, let alone one who calls his
philosophy metaphysics.
But enough about Pirsig. Again, I commend you for your efforts to bring the
MoQ and Essentialism into some sort of harmony. I would like to see this,
too, although I still feel that such a synthesis would require major
modification of the basic premises cited in my previous message. And I
don't think either author is willing to do that. (Besides, I won't
officially be an "author" until my book comes out; and I can guarantee you
it will never make the New York Times "best-seller" list ;-)
Cheers,
Ham
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