[MD] "100% confident"
Heather Perella
spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 13 08:38:31 PDT 2007
I also would like to add, in case anybody misses
this point of mine, that I learn more and more about
the point of the moq, too.
SA
> [Ham]
> > ...Pirsig's own pronouncement of his philosophy as
> > "not just atheistic but
> > anti-theistic" has been taken to mean that there
> is
> > no metaphysical reality,
> > and that whatever is "unknown" cannot be
> significant
> > because it is
> > inexperiencable. This of course limits the MoQ to
> > experiential knowledge,
> > denying the ineffable, and reducing the Oneness of
> > Eastern mysticism to an
> > amalgam of empirical patterns. (And Marsha
> couldn't
> > understand why I found
> > this philosophy nihilistic! )
>
>
> Well, here it shows how Ham continually brings
> up
> issues about the moq and argues against such issues
> about the moq that is NOT the moq. Ham contorts the
> moq into something it is not, and no matter how
> times
> people try to help Ham understand that what HE, Ham,
> thinks the moq is saying is not what the moq is
> stating, Ham will continue to project his beliefs
> about the moq in the face of such seemingly
> well-understood practitioners of the moq. Ham, you
> don't understand the moq. Do you understand that?
> So, for you to say what the moq is, well, that's
> what's been unfortunate all this time. So, until
> you
> understand the moq don't pretend that you can say
> what
> the moq is. But then I guess your out to show or
> argue against the moq to prop your thesis, and as
> long
> as you do that, well, that shows how much value you
> have for your thesis. Nothing wrong with that.
> People can continue to try to help Ham
> understand
> the moq, but in a few days, weeks, and months, he'll
> bring up the same issues, again. I really don't get
> it, other than Ham likes his thesis and is trying to
> show how much better it is than the moq. Nothing
> wrong with that effort.
> I'm probably saying 'stuff' about Ham's thesis,
> that Ham counts off as so wrong and false and I'm
> distorting his thesis, but the same goes for Ham
> when
> it comes to him trying to say what the moq is.
>
> morning light,
> SA
>
>
>
>
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