[MD] subject/object: pragmatism

[David M]

Hi DMB/Matt

Just like to say that I think the call to pure experience is no more
than a call to look at experience without SOM assumptions. Clearly
traditional empiricism makes these assumptions. The call to pure
experience is a call to think again about experience and look for
new descriptions that can replace the old ones full of SOM assumptions.
In  Europe Nietzsche kicks off this thought by rejecting the 
Platonic-Christian
prioritising of some transcendent real world beyond appearance (experience).
And Husserl makes a call of back to experience like Dewey, although he
rebuilds a sort of Cartesianism again. Heidegger picks it up again in Being 
and
Time and re-describes experience with a language highly 'purified' of SOM
assumptions (which is why it is so difficult read) and has much in common 
with Dewey.

Of course, European philosophy has more doubts about traditional science 
than
the American pragmatistsas they see science as full of aspects of SOM such 
as
determinism, absolute-laws, reductionism. Of course, like Rorty, Matt thinks
where Dewey is re-describing experience in non-SOM terms he should do
this without any metaphysics-ontology as this is re-instating a new sort of 
Platonism.
I think this view is wrong, like Hildebrand I think we need to recognise a
realm of experience that is more than linguistic and a realm of active and 
practical relations.

David M