[MD] subject/object: pragmatism

[David M]

Hi SA/Ian

If you need to make a painting of an oasis a mirage
will do just fine.

DM

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From: "Heather Perella" <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism


>> dmb says:
>> ...An actual oasis in the desert will provide
>> actual water while a mirage can't provide anything
>> but disappointment. The difference is known by the
>> consequences, which is literally a matter of life
>> and death in this case. As the pragmatist construes
>> it, true ideas are so because they successfully
>> guide future actions. Definitions, distinctions and
>> ideas play a different role and are no longer
>> expected to properly mirror reality, but there is no
>> less need for them in pragmatism.
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>     The mirage is very real.  A mirage is more real
> than an actual oasis in the desert where actual water
> is.  Of course, this mirage is as real as mirages get.
> You seem to be asserting that an actual oasis is
> real, more real than a mirage oasis.  An actual oasis
> is real if you want water to drink.  A mirage oasis
> will provide you with no water - an actual oasis can't
> do that, thus, a mirage oasis is more real at
> providing no water than an actual oasis.  I don't see
> why the need for saying an actual oasis is more real
> than a mirage oasis.  Sure it's in the consequence,
> but the consequence will give you what's coming to
> you.  I don't see this as a more real, less real
> issue.
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