[MD] Values

[David M]

Hi SA

Nice idea with the expt.
And thanks for the confirmation about
political values.

Regards
David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heather Perella" <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Values


>     [DM]
>> I think the powerful in society spends alot of time
>> and effort
>> trying to keep people as children: unaware of
>> the possibilities that really exist, and the dangers
>> and benefits
>> these possibilities contain. The powerful do this
>> for many
>> reasons. Fear of the masses, fear of losing their
>> power,
>> fear of the ignorance and irrationality of the
>> masses (whether
>> justified or not), belief in their own wisdom and
>> goodness
>> and entitlement to power (whether justified or not),
>> cynical
>> manipulation, lack of faith in the idea of
>> democracy,
>> elitist assumptions (whether justified or not), etc.
>
>     At work I intentionally did something, as a
> social experiment, to see how it could work out.  I
> put the whole unit of residents on interaction
> restriction.  This isn't a new consequence at the
> facility.  I did so, due to the females on the unit
> were targeting each other.  Some wanted to kill other
> residents.  Some threatened to punch others, etc...
> The staff were having a rough time as well handling
> these events.  So, what I did that was different, is I
> continued the interaction restriction for over seven
> days.  They couldn't verbally and nonverbally interact
> with each other.  It was going on for a long time.  We
> were into the ninth day, and I planned out the night
> before that I would let it continue until the
> residents were able to carry this consequence out
> very, very well or until staff came up to me and said
> they thought it should be over.  Either way, it would
> help refocus the unit.  Many things happened that
> turned out for the best.  First, staff started talking
> to each other about how this should end.  Then on the
> ninth day a staff member came up to me, and said how
> she thought the interaction restriction needs to end.
> She said, "What good is it doing going on this long
> anyways?  We are only holding the residents back."  I
> said to her, "Your 100% right.  I'm with you on this.
> I was waiting for either the residents to do the
> consequence very well or one of the staff to come up
> to me and say they wanted it stopped."
>     You see I came up with the consequence, and I
> further told the staff that I didn't want staff that
> just follow orders.  I want staff that if they really
> believe something is not going on correctly or it
> isn't helping out the unit, then I want staff to come
> up to me and speak their mind.  I don't want robots.
> Secondly what this did, is it took the heat off the
> staff and onto me.  I came up with the consequence,
> and now the residents took their negativity off the
> staff and each other and refocused it on me.  Also, as
> soon as I talked with this staff that wanted it to
> stop, I immediately went out and let the residents
> know that staff, and I named some names, convinced me
> that the interaction restriction should me lifted and
> ended.  I said, I think these staff are right, and it
> is no longer.  Now these staff, in the eyes of the
> residents were staff trying to help them out.  More
> positive interactions have been going on for some days
> now, so far.
>    I also did tell that staff that came up to me and
> wanted the consequence to end, that I didn't want
> staff that just follow authority no matter what is
> going on.  Authority is no something to follow
> blindly.
>
>      [DM]
>> The challenge of freedom and democratic autonomy is
>> great,
>> and progress seems to have stalled. Our political
>> leadership
>> is very poor. Is there not more to life than seeking
>> continuous
>> economic growth? Rather do we not need to seek a
>> higher
>> quality way to live together socially?
>
>     I don't watch all the political debates, but the
> Republican debate was on the other day and I wanted to
> see what they were discussing.  I'm not pointing out
> the political party so much, at least I don't think
> so, I'd imagine the same is being debated with the
> Democratic party, too.  If not, somebody let me know.
> Anyways, for over 30 minutes since I started watching
> the debate, all's they talked about was the economy
> and how they were going to make it better.  For over
> 30 minutes... why don't we just get a CEO in charge of
> this country.  It's all about business anyways.
>     I agree, we do need to seek a higher quality ways
> to live together socially.  This is why I think
> intellectual issues stem into social issues
> eventually.  So, how and what we intellectualize is
> some of the weather that rains and sunshines upon
> society.
>
> some good points, thanks.
>
> SA
>
>
>
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