[MD] "100% confident"

[David M]

dmb says:
 A dose of Rorty would help and you're sending Rorty to the rescue for Ham 
and the MOQ? Even if that were true, you gotta realize that is not going to 
persuade me. When have I ever said anything positive about Richard Rorty? I 
mean, dude, consider your audience here.

DM: If the medicine was not nasty tasting would it really be medicine? I 
know you don't want to swallow it but it will do you good in my professional 
opinion.


Besides, just in terms of common sense and conventional definitions, it 
makes no sense to say that what we endure, enjoy or otherwise go through is 
not an experience. If sensations are felt or lived through in what sense is 
that not an experience? Whatever we feel, face, undergo is experience. The 
certainty Descartes could establish without the help of God was his own 
doubt about everything else. All he could know for sure was the experience 
of doubting. His existence is an iffy deduction compared to that. Can't 
Ham's distinction be made without refusing to admit that sensations are 
experienced in some way? Isn't it simply more intelligible to distinquish 
between cognitive and non-cognitive experience rather than assert that one 
is not experience at all? As Dewey says, knowledge is not the only kind of 
experience and the there is a big difference between having an experience 
and KNOWING you had an experience. If anything, we should reserve the word 
for the actual having of experience and we should say the subsequent 
reflections and conceptions are something else derived from the real thing. 
That doesn't really work either, but I'm just saying that if we really HAD 
TO exclude one or the other, I would still object to Ham's definition. But 
maybe that's just how I define the meaning of the phrase "makes no sense". 
And since you such a good Rortian, you'll allow me to define things however 
I like.

DM: I agree with your view here. I was just pointing out that your argument 
was crap. Sort of thing your teacher will do too you know. I suggest 
chucking
your rattle is a bad way to handle criticism. But I still think your great.




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