[MD] Oui and Pirsig

[MarshaV]

At 01:36 PM 9/6/2007, you wrote:


>      [Marsha]
> > Yes and no, I have chosen time over money.  I
>retired 9 years ago.
>
>      [SA]
>I'm being sensitive when I say this, but I
>believe this was a point you were trying to make some
>posts ago.  If my option is waiting til I retire, then
>I still have a long way to go.

I chose to retire very early, but my children had already flown from 
the nest, so it was not such a difficult choice.



>      [Marsha]
> > It's not easy to know past ones
> > expectations of another person.  That's a BIG
>problem.
>
>     Yes, I don't want to upset them, make them feel
>sad, left out, and over-do it, etc...

Not exactly what I meant.  Do you know your mother as a individual 
person?  Or do you know your mother through the expectations of her 
role as mother?  This can become very dicey when it comes to significant other.



>     [Marsha]
> > I'm not sure what works for others.  For me it took
> > 6 years of living
> > in a semi-solitude.  Time to ask the questions and
> > wait for some
> > answers.  Time to pick at some scars and sink deep
> > into old
> > wounds.  Time to realize that there is only one
> > source, and that you
> > are me, and I am you.  That's who that other person
> > is too, me and
> > you.   And it takes vigilance not to forget it.
>
>
>      I'm not talking about how to find out on my own
>who that other person is.  I'm talking about how I
>know you more than the people I meet on the streets.
>We've taken the time.  We have the chance to get to
>know each other.  We're breaking barriers on the MoQ
>discuss forum, but this forum is here on the internet,
>using a computer, and is not at the grocery store.
>There are no meeting places around here to discuss
>openly and publicly.  If I had more $, I'd be able to
>make a place that I've dreamnt about for years, but
>that's another issue I bring up to show I've thought
>about positive solutions to this problem I think
>exists.  I can delve into myself, and I do, but I'm
>talking about Joe-Bob, and Betty-Sue, etc...

It's not delving into myself, but delving into "selves".   Again, I'm 
not understanding what you want from Joe-Bob and Betty-Sue.



>     [Marsha]
> > Jeez, I feel I should list all my bad habits, and
>there are many, but
> > fudge it, I'm not going to.
>
>     I see this forum has allowed us to know each other
>greatly, but I guess I see this forum as where I go to
>talk about what is happening while I'm away from this
>forum.  But another big part of my life is on this
>forum, too.

My intellectual life has been rather limited.  I am thrilled that 
this forum has exposed me to so many exciting new ideas.

Marsha