[MD] subject/object: no quality?

Ham Priday hampday1 at verizon.net
Sat Sep 15 11:22:43 PDT 2007


Hi SA --

> Define MoQ's awareness, and the MoQ's placement of
> sensibility?  Also, what do these terms mean in your
> thesis?  Since you know the answers to both of these
> questions with a comparison included from your
> conclusion above, then enlighten me on this topic
> please.

It is not my place to define another author's philosophy, so I purposely 
avoided it.  Any attempt on my part to explain the MoQ would be seen as 
either an "attack" on Mr. Pirsig or a misunderstanding of his philosophy.

Since Pirsig has not used the term "sensibility", you are misguided if you 
think I know what it means to him.  I have defined both sensibility and 
awareness in my thesis, as follows:

"Sensibility - Pre-intellectual value-awareness which is the primary, 
undifferentiated attribute of the                         negate from which 
the Self is individuated."

"Awareness - Proprietary or subjective sensibility, the purest form of which 
is distinct from self-
                      consciousness, memory or experience."

I felt it necessary to make a distinction between these terms, because while 
proprietary awareness is derived from sensibility, it is relative to a 
specific subject (self) and is differentiated in content. Sensibility, on 
the other hand, is absolute as it applies to Essence, and therefore cannot 
be regarded as a "separate property" of this primary source.

As for whether, or to what extent, sensibility or awareness applies to DQ, 
you will have to consult  MoQ's author.  I know only that he maintains that 
inanimate objects "experience" value (quality?) and move toward it, either 
on a static or dynamic level.  Since experience implies "awareness", I can 
only assume he believes unconscious objects are aware.  He has postulated 
quality as the primary "empirical" reality, but makes no mention of a 
primary "metaphysical" reality.  If he believes in a primary source or 
creator, he has not expressed such a belief.

If you comprehend Pirsig's ontology, perhaps you can enlighten me as to how 
"sensibility" fits into the MoQ.

Best regards,
Ham




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