[MD] subject / object logic

[Dan Glover]

>From: "Ron Kulp" <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>Subject: Re: [MD] subject / object logic
>Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:37:02 -0400
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> >Dan
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>Dreaming, Dan realizes he is dreaming. Dan sees a man sitting in a Yoga
>position and marvels at the posture the man holds and how effortlessly
>he holds it. Drawing closer Dan realizes it is Dan sitting there in
>front of Dan.
>
>Not Dan is Dan is not Dan.
>
>Ron:
>Dan,
>I meant that in an experience is an experience dreamt or not, distinct
>for each of us.
>as for Dan is Dan is not Dan, only Dan may know.

Dan may not know. For instance:

I see myself sitting on the floor in front of me. Who am I? I open my eyes, 
look up, and see myself standing there looking down at me. Who am I? Am I 
the sitter or the stander? The watcher or the watched?

Subject and object thinking tells me that I have to be one or the other -- I 
cannot be both. Yet experience tells me different. I am both. So I come to 
see that to believe in subject and object thinking is a fallacy perpetrated 
upon me by the culture in which I am ensconced.

It's a very powerful illusion though. I want to be me. I need to be me. I 
fight to be me. I have to be me. Without me there is nothing. Nothing! Only 
Dan knows. It scares Jesus out of me to think that there is no Dan to know 
yet I have to flow through the fear if clarity is to be achieved.

Or keep believing in the fallacy. But there will be a time when the fallacy 
comes to an end. For all of us. When death taps me on the shoulder I will be 
no more. I can go kicking and screaming into that good night or I can go 
with a sense of equamity knowing full well I never existed to start with and 
therefore have no reason to fear the supposed end. That which has no 
beginning has no end.