[MD] real/illusion/real

[Arlo Bensinger]

[Marsha]
At first all things of the world are real, then all things of the 
world are illusion, then once again all things of the world are real.

[Arlo]
Hi, Marsha. If I understand correctly, this seems to resonate with 
what Ant posted a few days ago.

"An infant tends not to recognise ego boundaries but that is from the 
(selfish) point of view that it _is_ the universe.  A mystic, also 
tends not to recognise ego boundaries but that is from the (selfless) 
point of view that the (static) self dissolves in a fundamentally 
Dynamic universe.  Though on the surface, both points of view seem 
similar, there is the 'full circle' of spiritual growth (of the 
individual) between them." (Ant McWatt)

I have heard a similar statement (although maybe sounding inverted) 
in that the human cycle begins with seeing the world through the 
wonderment of the eyes of a child. As we mature, we lose lose this 
wonderment in seeking underlying causality and mechanics governing 
the world. But a third step, the "Zen" step, is to reach an 
integration where wonderment is recaptured. It is this cycle, if 
memory serves, that is describe by Benjamin Hoff in the Tao of 
Pooh/Te of Piglet books. Here we move from illusion to real back to 
illusion. Or maybe from illusion-based-in-ignorance to 
real-based-in-knowledge to illusion-based-in-philosophy.