[MD] subject / object logic

pholden at davtv.com pholden at davtv.com
Sat Sep 22 03:54:40 PDT 2007


Quoting Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>:

> 
> > > > >      [Platt previously] 
> > > > > > Everyone keeps telling me Buddhism is about
> > > > > > illusions. So do you think 
> > > > > > that the world and yourself are illusions,
> > or not?  If not, I'd be interested in
> > > > > > how you tell the difference between what's
> > > > illusory and what's real.
> > > 
> > >      [SA previously]
> > > > >      Well, illusory is not real, therefore how
> > > > could any "difference" be told?
> 
>      [Platt] 
> > That's the difference. You've just told it. Illusory
> > is not real. 
> 
> 
>     So why are you against something that's not real? 
> Isn't that like trying to hit a tree in a field that
> has no trees?

I'm not against something that's not real. I'm against calling what's real
an illusion.

>   
> > >      [Platt previously] 
> > > > So you can't tell the difference between the
> > woods and Santa Claus? How strange.  
> 
>      [SA previously] 
> > >     Oh, was I talking about the woods and Santa
> > Claus above?  Sorry, I'll have to learn to read
> between
> > the lines where I don't mention woods and where I
> > don't mention Santa Claus is definitely not what I
> was
> > > talking about.  Yes, it is strange how I talked
> > about Santa Claus and woods and didn't even know it,
> > hmmmm, maybe I'll keep re-reading what I wrote and
> find
> > those words in there somewhere above.
> 
>      [Platt] 
> > I talked about the woods and Santa Claus and asked
> > how you told the difference?
> > I assume your answer is the former is real and the
> > latter is illusory. 
> 
> 
>      Don't assume what I know!!  Your assuming is
> dictorial and doesn't allow me to think.

Sorry. Didn't mean to offend. I assume what you know when it's not
clear by your statements what you know. If I assume incorrectly, you say so.
That's how discussion progresses.  





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