[MD] subject / object logic

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>:

> 
>      [Platt]
> > Self-contradiction doesn't bother you. It bothers
> > me. Anything irrational
> > in a philosophical discussion bothers me. 
> 
> 
>      Do you think you can wipe irrationality off the
> face of the earth? 

No.

> How do you handle 'things' that
> bother you?  What is your effort in these situations?

I try to change things so they don't bother me anymore. Sometimes it's simply
a change in attitude. 

>      [Ian]
> > > Why do we always have to get stuck on this
> > beautiful (real, cyclical)
> > > truth ? The sort of Quine the world thrives and
> > evolves on, as opposed
> > > to the kind of logic that kills it.
> 
>      [Platt] 
> > Logic kills the world? For your sake I hope your
> > doctor disagrees.
> 
> 
>     Platt, might it be that due to the world MUST be
> this or that to you, therefore "Logic" can have ONLY
> one definition?  Ian is saying, "kind of logic".  

Logic can have several definitions. Wikipedia lists 8. 

>      [Ian]    
> > > You are right SA to say it is meaningless to
> > debate it.
> 
>      [Platt] 
> > An illogical debate is meaningless and pointless.
> 
>      Due to me being involved, Ian, with my name noted
> above, this is why I also wanted to apply my input to
> this discussion.  So, anyways, Platt, what is an
> illogical debate?  Is an illogical debate real or
> illusionary?

An illogical debate is one that is nonsensical, like debating how many angels can
sit on the head of a pin. Illogical debates can be real or illusory depending on
context.  

Thanks.
Platt
 


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