[MD] subject / object logic

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>:

> Hi Ant/Platt
> 
> Pretty much agree with Ant.
> We should not ask if something is real or an illusion.
> Rather we should ask what sort of real is it?
> 
> Before there was life on earth a glass of water was a real future 
> possibility.
> A glass of water in my mind is a real memory.
> A glass of water in the mind of the woman who invented the drinking glass is 
> a real good original idea yet to be actualised.
> An empty glass near a tap is a real potential glass of water.
> A glass of water that can be drunk or spilt or thrown has a number of real 
> practical uses.
> A glass of water in another room is real but is beyond my current 
> experience.
> The illusion of a glass of water for a thirsty woman is a real illusion of a 
> glass of water, desirable, but not drinkable for it is a real illusion
> 
> The word illusion largely means something you can see but can't touch.
> Is Mr Bush on my TV the real Mr Bush or an illusion of him?
> Can my TV create Mr Bush's image in my lounge?
> Is information unreal because you cannot touch it?
> Don't think so when the very word 'artificial' tells us that ideas have very 
> real powers.
> 
> David M

Hi David,

I think maybe you're on to something. Rather than call the self an illusion
as Buddhists do, ask what sort of real is it? For me it is real as a subject, real 
as an object, and real as a pattern of values depending on my perspective.

Platt
  


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