[MD] subject/object: no quality?

[David M]

Hi Platt

I knew you'd love this.
Try this for something similar you'd love:

http://www.amazon.com/Eros-Good-Wisdom-According-Nature/dp/1591021480/ref=sr_1_1/103-6694776-2835044?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190661859&sr=1-1

DM

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Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: no quality?


> Quoting Ham Priday <hampday1 at verizon.net>:
>
> Well said, Ham. One for my keeper file.
>
> Best,
> Platt
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>> > I think that which is prior to our experience is best left
>> > undefined.  To me, using the word 'primary' is saying too much.
>> > The word 'purpose' seems very presumptuous.  While unknowable,
>> > within my frame of reference (constellation of overlapping,
>> > interconnected, ever-changing static patterns of value) I find
>> > events and relationships very interesting and exciting.  Therefore,
>> > I try to make the 'best' of these events and relationships.  I live my
>> > life.  And I'm happy corresponding with you is a part of that life.
>>
>> Far be it for me to try to push a metaphysical hypothesis on you when you
>> are obviously not ready for it.  I'm glad that you find the ever-changing
>> patterns of events and relationships exciting, and can understand why 
>> you're
>> presently content to leave the "unknowable" undefined.  Yet, there are 
>> many
>> out there who are hungry for understanding beyond factual knowledge. 
>> These
>> are the folks I'm trying to reach.  A great many subsist on faith in
>> religious doctrine, others seek the wisdom of the venerable philosophers 
>> or
>> the spirituality of New Age mysticism, while some are convinced that
>> scientific objectivism will eventually resolve all their questions.
>>
>> What troubles me is that our society, with the help of Hollywood and the
>> media, has succumbed to emotional fads based on issues which have no 
>> logic
>> or wisdom behind them.  One of these fads is the belief that the desire 
>> for
>> higher understanding is a relic of the past that "intellectual
>> enlightenment" has overcome.  Elitists like Richard Dawkins and 
>> Christopher
>> Hitchens play on this ruse by trying to convince the vulnerable that
>> religion is the root of all evil and that it's time we put spirituality
>> behind us.  They profit from the sale of books pitting Science against
>> Religion, as if this were not a battle already played out in centuries 
>> past.
>> Yet, they say nothing about the values that have been trashed by a 
>> culture
>> which has made "having fun" the first priority, with little if any 
>> concern
>> for fiscal, moral, or civil responsibility.
>>
>> In a small book titled "Roots of Freedom", John Danford wrote: "The 
>> hedonism
>> of individual pleasure-seeking, the sense that there is no limit to what 
>> is
>> permitted in the name of individual fulfillment or 'actualization', the
>> disappearance of any sense of obligations-these are early warnings of a 
>> free
>> society's decay."   Unfortunately, he's right.  I would venture to say 
>> that
>> most citizens today are so accustomed to enjoying the latest 
>> technological
>> gadgets and an affluent life style, they've come to believe that America 
>> is
>> invulnerable.  The sad truth is that they're in a state of denial about 
>> many
>> "realities" confronting them, not the least of which is the threat of a
>> barbarian culture fully committed to the destruction of their way of 
>> life.
>>
>> A retired chemistry professor, and friend of many years, told me recently 
>> he
>> thought value is really only "what's important".  I would turn his
>> definition around and say that what's really important is value.  In 
>> seven
>> decades on this planet I have watched the values that made this nation 
>> great
>> fall by the wayside to be replaced by the hubris of power, the deferment 
>> of
>> individual responsibility, the mediocrity of multicultural 
>> egalitarianism,
>> and the senseless rejection of metaphysical reality.
>>
>> By the time you reach my age, Marsha, I suspect you will be expressing 
>> some
>> of the same observations.  Hopefully by that time you will have sensed a
>> need to revisit the concept of "primary source" and discover what is
>> fundamental to your life-experience.
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