[MD] Value and the Individual

[Khaled Alkotob]

[Ham]
> Consider that we've been parsing levels, dominance, patterns, 
> intellect,  evolution, and quality without so much as a mention of the 
> "individual self".  Steve pointed out that "personification of levels
.. is 
> muddling the  MOQ."  Does it make sense to personify levels while at
the same time 
> dismissing the "person" who defines them?

> We talk about higher levels evolving out of lower levels, only to 
> dominate  the lower levels, as if man were just a passive bystander of
a 
> cosmic play. 
> My question to you all is: What is the point of this endless war of 
> conquest among levels of Quality if man is not its central focus? 

Ham

Our western way of thinking ( By western I mean the influence of the 3
Abrahamic faiths on us) we have put the Godhead above us (outside)
instead of in-us.

That mode of thinking carries over to the discussions we are having here.
On the other hand, thinking that we are part of the God and the universe,
that our collective is that God will force us to think differently.
We are the Value and the Quality as it happens.
We fail to see that the Quality we seek is an EVENT. Just like calculus,
where you do your derivatives to find the value at that instance in space
and time. All other ways of looking at things in plain Euclidean math.
Quality is not a sustained note, it's a moment of awareness.

So in order to answer your question "What is the point of this endless
war of conquest among levels of Quality if man is not its central focus"
you have to put the God, Quality, Godhead idea Inside of us and go
outward, instead of looking out and trying to bring that to your level.
And NO that does not personify the levels, because these values are
universals.

When individuals, near and far, agree on Quality and Value, and that
agreement is the result of an outward search, those values tend to stay
around for a long time. Plus, they are dynamic and allow for change under
the influence of space and time.

Just my humble opinion

Khaled