[MD] Value and the Individual

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>:

> Hi Platt
> 
> That's just a smaller collective is it not?
> 
> DM


Hi DM,

No. Collectivism as I use it describes a system of government where
individuals are subservient to the state. Communism, socialism and
fascism are such systems. All follow the principles of Marxism.

Platt

> 
> > Quoting David M <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk>:
> >
> >> Hi Platt
> >>
> >> I assume you did not send your children to school
> >> and provided their education exclusively within the family
> >> to avoid any collective activity?
> >>
> >> DM
> >
> > Hi DM,
> >
> > I sent my children to private schools where they leaned reading, writing 
> > and
> > arithmetic. The also learned self-discipline, self-responsibility and the 
> > value of
> > individual liberty. In other words, they learned what today's government 
> > schools
> > fail to teach.
> >
> > Platt
> >
> >> > Quoting Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>:
> >> >
> >> >> > DM
> >> >> > What is the collectivist view?
> >> >> > That I have arms, legs, eyes, language, culture
> >> >> > and so do you.
> >> >>
> >> >> [Platt]
> >> >> The collectivist view is that individual exists for the sake of the
> >> >> state,
> >> >> or in Hillary's case, the village.
> >> >>
> >> >> [Krimel]
> >> >> Funny, I thought Hillary's view was that the village exists for the 
> >> >> sake
> >> >> of
> >> >> the child.
> >> >
> >> > Hillary wants to "free" children from their parents by having the 
> >> > village
> >> > provide for the children's needs, turning them into dependents of the
> >> > village.
> >> > Her proposals for state sponsored pre-school "education" and the recent
> >> > California ruling against home schooling exemplify the collectivist 
> >> > view.



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