[MD] Science and the MOQ

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Quoting Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>:

> > > > > [Platt]
> > > > > Whether a germ knows there's an independent reality or not is 
> > > > > debatable since we don't know what it's like to be a germ. That a 
> > > > > germ knows that it's better for it to be in one place rather than 
> > > > > another can be assumed by its behavior.
> > > > > Similarly with an electron.
> > > > > 
> > > > > [Krimel]
> > > > > If we don't know what a germ knows maybe we ought to just talk about
> > > > > what it does rather than making ass-u-me-tions about what it knows.
> > > > > Similarly with electrons.
> > > > 
> > > > [Platt]
> > > > Every form of knowledge rests on assumptions.
> > > > 
> > > > [Krimel}
> > > > This places a heavy burden on assumptions. So much so that I think the
> > > > burden of justifying the making of them rests on those urging the
> > > > assumption. In these situations what justifies your assumption? What 
> > > > does it offer us?
> > > 
> > > [Platt]
> > > By "these assumptions" I assume you mean the above about a germ and an
> > > electron.
> > > As for what it offers us, read "Lila."
> > > 
> > > [Krimel]
> > > It is you who says, "That a germ knows that it's better for it to be in 
> > > one place rather than another can be assumed by its behavior."
> > > 
> > > I am asking you to articulate your personal reason for urging this
> > > assumption. Can you tell me in you own words 
> > 
> > [Platt]
> > A better understanding of reality.
> > 
> > [Krimel]
> > Better how?
> 
> [Platt]
> Read "Lila."
> 
> [Krimel]
> That won't tell me what benefit you personally see to assuming that a germ
> "knows" based on what it does.
> 
> I believe you are capable of doing this but I could be wrong.

I just told you. I believe you can read but I could be wrong.



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