[MD] Value and the Individual
Platt Holden
pholden at davtv.com
Tue Apr 8 04:34:13 PDT 2008
> [Platt]
> Naturally there will be a transition phase before all schools become
> private.
>
> [Arlo]
> So, let's think beyond that for a moment. All schools are now private. We
> have abolished school taxes. What happens to people who can't afford good
> schools? What happens to people who can't afford school at all?
Thinking beyond that -- all people can now afford good schools.
> [Platt]
> Of course not, no more so than they are today. Quality will vary as always.
>
> [Arlo]
> And which schools will have better Quality? The ones attended by the wealthy
> or the ones attended by the poor?
Class distinctions will make no difference in the quality of schools.
> Are you denying that in this system the schools will stratify according to
> class? How not?
How so?
> [Arlo previously]
> What will happen is obvious, schools will congregate along class-lines. Poor
> families that can't afford good schools will get crappy second rate ones
> (its all they will be able to afford). Rich kids will get the best
> education.
Some will, some won't.
> [Platt]
> Giving parents a voucher and a choice, schools will compete for students,
> raising quality.
>
> [Arlo]
> So you favor forcing private schools to accept vouchers? Would this be on a
> lottery system? Would schools be able to choose who they accept? Would
> schools be able to deny low-income families? Non-whites?
Schools will offer variety like the free market.
> [Platt]
> I never claimed all schools would be, or should be, equal. But they would be
> better overall than they are today due to competition.
>
> [Arlo]
> Japan's and Finland's public schools arguably provide among the best
> education available in the world. And they are public schools. Why is this?
I don't know. You tell me. Why do Jewish and Asian students do better
in school than others?
> At least in the present system we are striving to provide all our children
> with comparable quality educations. We may fail at times, and we should do
> better, but it is a worthwhile goal.
Fail at times? Surely you jest. Failure describes the condition of
government schools today.
> Stratifying education among class lines, so that rich kids get a better
> education than poor kids, and accepting this as natural, is just sad.
To harp on equality of individual abilities and student outcomes is sadder.
> [Platt]
> Public schools today aren't equal in quality education. In fact, most public
> schools do a lousy job. So what's your point?
>
> [Arlo]
> Most public schools do a great job. There is room for improvement. And where
> there in inequality our goal should be to bring underachieving schools to
> the same standard as successful schools.
Most government schools fail to educate even the basics of reading, writing
and arithmetic, not to mention self-discipline, self-reliance and aesthetic
taste (quality).
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