[MD] What is 'Plains-spoken' to you?

[David M]

Hi Matt

ever had an idea you can't express easily and you search to finds the words?
may work other way round too, a sometimes useful but not always required 
distinction maybe?

DM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Kundert" <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] What is 'Plains-spoken' to you?


>
> Matt said:
> What is an idea if not words? I think the idea that ideas are 
> pre-linguistic is a remnant of SOM.
>
> Krimel said:
> What are words if not symbols for ideas? I am not at all sure how the 
> notion of pre-linguistic or even a-linguistic ideation is a remnant of 
> SOM.
>
> Matt:
> Well, first think of it this way: I say ideas are words, you say there are 
> ideas _and_ words.  In terms of ontology, you have two categories to my 
> one and by Ockham's Razor, choosing the simplest explanation, my single 
> category would win out.
>
> That's, naturally, the beginning of a conversation as I'm trying to thrust 
> the burden of proof on you.  Why do we _need_ the idea of an "idea" that's 
> distinct from words?
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