[MD] What is metaphysics to you?

[Joseph Maurer]

On Friday 11 April 2008 11:20 AM David M answers Joe:
 
>
> Hi David M, Matt/Magnus and all,
>
> I would guess the number is unnecessary until we know.  When
> knowledge is seen as abstracted from reality to fit into a mind,
> who knows how  many numbers are possible.  When knowledge is
> accepted as experience, then each person will have their own       >
metaphysics.  Physics is another matter.  Are the two the same,     > just
different names?  I wonder if manifest reality and unmanifest > order have
definitions beyond DQ/SQ?
 
> Joe
 
 
DM: I am seeing metaphysics as a common cultural endeavour, otherwise

it is a private language that we cannot discuss. Is manifest reality made up
of SQ? Is the order that emerges from nowhere called DQ? Is the

reality of disorder another aspect of DQ? With more disorder than order

generally being manifest?

 

Hi David M,

A while back when we were discussing mystical experience you gave the
example of the Goal!!!!!!!!!, and I understood you.  A discussion of my
understanding would entail DQ which is undefined and so you would say a
private language.  The glasses culture hands us are mechanical, and I don¹t
buy that conscious experience though undefined is not individual.
 
For myself I now define DQ as ³Conscious² experience and SQ as ³Mechanical²
experience. Previously we understood each others¹ invocation of DQ, and I
also feel you would understand my use of ³conscious experience² in place of
DQ and ³mechanical experience² for SQ if it wasn¹t deranged, and nothing
would be undefined.  We could communicate just fine.  SQ is mechanical
reality.  DQ is conscious reality.  Disorder is insanity, or a
misapplication of conscious or mechanical experience.  Metaphysical disorder
can manifest as conscious experience and take a few thousand years to sort
out.
 
Joe



On 4/11/08 11:20 AM, "David M" <davidint at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>> 
>> Hi David M, Matt/Magnus and all,
>> 
>> I would guess the number is unnecessary until we know.  When knowledge is
>> seen as abstracted from reality to fit into a mind, who knows how many
>> numbers are possible.  When knowledge is accepted as experience, then each
>> person will have their own metaphysics.  Physics is another matter.  Are
>> the
>> two the same, just different names?  I wonder if manifest reality and
>> unmanifest order have definitions beyond DQ/SQ?
>> 
>> Joe
> 
> 
> DM: I am seeing metaphysics as a common cultural endeavour, otherwise
> it is a private language that we cannot discuss. Is manifest reality made up
> of SQ? Is the order that emerges from nowhere called DQ? Is the
> reality of disorder another aspect of DQ? With more disorder than order
> generally being manifest?
> 
> 
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