[MD] Science and the MOQ

[ian glendinning]

Ham, Krim, one comment inserted below

On 4/14/08, Krimel <Krimel at krimel.com> wrote:
> [Ham]
> If you really believe that mathematics is culturally determined, Krimel...
>
> [Krimel]
> Even mathematicians debate whether mathematics is discovered or invented.
> But how mathematics is used and described are purely cultural.
>
> [Ham]
> ...then you are using "cultural" as a synonym for "empirical".
>
> [Krimel]
> Not at all, empirical refers to what comes in through the senses. Culture
> tells us what to make of this.
>
[Ian] "Tells" & "Determined" are a bit strong, but Krim is right what
we take for empirical (and logical / mathematical and intellectual /
rational) is culturally filtered / influenced to a great extent.

How, Ham, can this even be open to debate ?

Exasperated
Ian