[MD] What is the MOQ?

[Ham Priday]

Hi Bo --

I hope you've recovered from your visit to the dentist.

> Yes, Pirsig put great emphasis on an undifferentiated source,
> but this is no "transcendence" of SOM, there was for example
> William James who claimed something ahead - deeper - than
> subjects and objects, but this never "took off" because it was
> absorbed either by the subjective or the objective. This is what
> happened to the MOQ too, in LILA it became an "intellectual"
> pattern of an intellect that become "subjective" (where all levels
> are according to Ian) and the undifferentiated Quality (ahead of
> the MOQ) shows uncanny likeness to Kant's "Ding .." the
> ineffable reality that the MOQ is just another theory about. See,
> the MOQ have disappeared into SOM's subjective and Quality
> into its objective realms.

I think that's a correct assessment of Pirsig's philosophy.  And if you are 
pushing for a "transcendental" connection, I'm with you all the way.  To 
define something is to differentiate it from everything else.  Ultimate 
reality cannot be defined because, as Cusanus said, it is neither an "other" 
nor is it opposed to any other.  But just because it can't be defined 
doesn't mean that we have to reject it.  Cusanus chose to call the 
undifferentiated source "the coincidence of all contrariety".  For me, this 
was just the breakthrough needed for a metaphysics of Essence.  (MoE??)

You and I are at odds with respect to the individuality of cognizant 
awareness and intellect, Bo, but you seem to agree with me that quality or 
value is always differentiated, hence does not qualify as the nature of the 
primary source.  This is true no matter how we compartmentalize the levels 
of physical (i.e., experiential) reality.

Since we are all SOMists by virtue of our experience in the world of finite 
being, I would like to explore your ideas as to what "deeper/higher" realm 
or level there may be.  You once stated that intellect is the value of the 
S/O divide.  Concepts like this suggest that there may be some common ground 
between us, and this short post may open an opportunity to bump heads.

Best regards,
Ham