[MD] Dynamic Development at all costs?

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>:

> > > [Krimel]
> > > You remind me of Jesus' parable of the sheep and the goats:
> > > 
> > > "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he
> > > will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be 
> > > gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as
> 
> > > a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on 
> > > his right and the goats on his left. 
> > >  
> > > "Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are 
> > > blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for 
> > > you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me 
> > > something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I 
> > > was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed 
> > > me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to 
> > > visit me.'
> > > "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry 
> > > and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we 
> > > see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?
> 
> > > When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' 
> > > 
> > > "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of
> 
> > > the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' 
> > > 
> > > "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are 
> > > cursed,into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For 
> > > I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave 
> > > me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I 
> > > needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and 
> > > you did not look after me.' 
> > > 
> > > "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or 
> > > a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help 
> > > you?'
> > > "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one 
> > > of the least of these, you did not do for me.' 
> > > 
> > > "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to 
> > > eternal life."
> > 
> > [Platt]
> > It's really hilarious that you, an avowed atheist, would turn to Jesus for
> 
> > moral guidance.
> > 
> > [Krimel]
> > I don't think the truth of Jesus' words is derived from divine authority.
> > You have never heard me be critical of what the man said. I find much of
> > what he said profound and inspirational. What many say about what he said 
> > is a different matter.
> > 
> > On the other hand it is curious that you who professes, if not to believe 
> > in him, to support those who claim to do so; would ignore what he says. 
> > You espouse a political philosophy that is in direct opposition to Jesus'
> > gospel. It seems that those who want to wrap themselves in his mantle have
> > no problem with this. Now that is hysterical, in a clinical if not 
> > humorous way.
> 
> [Platt]
> Just as I suspected. You missed the whole point of the MOQ. You fit Pirsig's
> description to a tee:
> 
> "To answer him you have to go all the way back to fundamental meanings of 
> what is meant by morality and in this culture there aren't any fundamental 
> meanings of morality. There are only old traditional social and religious 
> meanings and these don't have any real intellectual base. They're just
> traditions." (Lila, 7)
> 
> [Krimel]
> You pompous ignorant blowhard. I suspect Pirsig is horrified with the way
> you constantly twist his words into something hideous and repellant. What
> you show every day on this forum is that you are shallow little man without
> the guts to articulate his own ideas; instead you slander the man you claim
> to revere. Shame on you.

Ah yes, the personal attack. It always comes down to this when Krimel and a few
others cannot make an intelligent argument. Sad.  


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