[MD] Dynamic Development at all costs?

Platt Holden pholden at davtv.com
Thu Apr 24 13:08:37 PDT 2008


[Krimel]
> So is that what you are objecting to here; the fact that society has changed
> its tune and not longer tolerates demeaning people on the basis of race
> creed or color? You have stated your distain for the principles set forth in
> our founding documents often enough. Is this just more complaining because
> we are actually starting to live up to them.

Disdain for the principles of the Founding Fathers? You gotta be kidding.
It's your disdain of free speech that's snuffing out one of their most 
fundamental principles protecting the intellectual level from being 
devoured by the social "civil rights" level.   

> As for Barone's complaints about the deleterious effects of postmodernism;
> surely you can't be supportive of that complaint. After all what is Pirsig's
> gallery of truths but an impressionistic portrait of the postmodern? It's
> all just stories about the truth; all just stories to be judged on aesthetic
> criteria, right? Hiphop and Shakespeare just pictures at an exhibition.

Your materialist/reductionist views are just stories -- that I agree. 
 
> As for Barone's complaint about, "history departments with multiculturalists
> who insist that all societies are morally equal except our own, which is
> morally inferior." That is just a distortion but one that must resonate
> easily in those who still claim that we can do no wrong, that slavery and
> genocide are fine when we do it. Being honest about ones own failings is
> only detrimental when we fail to repent of our sins. Or when, in the case of
> neocons, we regards sin as virtue.

Yes, America is to blame for  all the world's ills. The leftists. led by 
the likes of  Chomsky and Carlin,  have been beating that drum since since 
the 70's. 

> In the interest of academic freedom if anyone wants to read Barone's piece
> it is here:
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/10/ivory_tower_decay.html 
> 
> [Platt]
> This site is about Pirsig's ideas in case you haven't noticed. It is not
> just a platform for your materialist/reductionist views.  
> 
> [Krimel]
> You are quite right this is a place for people to articulate their views.
> You might consider trying it some time. But I guess it is easier to stick to
> distorting Pirsig's.

Since to you its all just a story anyway, what's your complaint?




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