[MD] Dynamic Development at all costs?

pholden at davtv.com pholden at davtv.com
Fri Apr 25 12:36:13 PDT 2008


Quoting Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>:

> > [Krimel]
> > You could try the paragraph above. I know there are a few big words there.
> > Try sounding them out. Notice the part about "Then one doesn't seek the
> > absolute Truth." And the part about "One can then examine intellectual
> > realities the same way one examines paintings in an art gallery, not with 
> > an effort to find out which one is the 'real' painting, but simply to 
> > enjoy and keep those that are of value."
> 
> [Platt]
> Those excerpts say nothing about truth cannot be known. You see things that
> aren't there. I think they call that hallucinating. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> I am neither an expert on nor an advocate for postmodernity but as I
> understand it, the crux of the matter is that it challenges the idea that
> Truth or and absolute reality can be known. That is exactly what Pirsig says
> here, "Then one doesn't seek the absolute Truth." It would seem to be front
> and center with his conception of Quality as fundamentally indefinable. It
> is not that "truth" can not be known it is that "Truth" can not be known.
> 
> > [Krimel]
> > This is a really like postmodern argument here coming from an English
> > teacher... Is this starting to come together for you now? That last bit is
> > the part that means that if HipHop floats your boat it's as good as
> > Shakespeare. Especially, if you don't really care much for Shakespeare.
> 
> [Platt]
> Try this to bring you back from Disneyland to reality. "The tests of truth 
> are logical consistency, agreement with experience, and economy of 
> explanation." (Lila, 8) If you don't get it at first, write it out 100 
> times. Oh, I forgot. Writing is difficult for you. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> He also makes it clear that there is not just one way to pass these tests.
> Sometimes we grade on a curve and often we judge on purely aesthetic
> criteria as in, "One can then examine intellectual realities the same way
> one examines paintings in an art gallery, not with  an effort to find out
> which one is the 'real' painting, but simply to enjoy and keep those that
> are of value."
> 
> Does it hurt you to find that Pirsig might actually be an evil
> postmodernist?

What hurts is your apparent belief that a postmodernist statement like "It's true
there is no Truth" is a high quality intellectual pattern. It's self-
contradictory and thus profoundly incoherent. But, logic is apparently something
you can take or leave at your convenience.   





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