[MD] What is the MOQ?

Arlo Bensinger ajb102 at psu.edu
Wed Apr 30 12:08:19 PDT 2008


[Ham]
"It's necessary for somebody to look at it.  In the absence of 
observers, our universe is dead."

[Arlo]
So the universe did not exist before "man"? I take it you would say 
that "man" appears "fully formed", like Adam, suddenly and without 
ontogenesis. The moment the eyes of "Adam" opened, the rest of the 
universe suddenly pops into existence?

Also, here you try to consider a "group solipsism", but it doesn't 
hold. By this logic, its not necessary for "somebody" to look at it, 
its necessary for ME to look at it. What evidence do you have, for 
example, that the universe will continue after YOUR death? By saying 
that a Koala bear in deep Australia suddenly exists because a 
bushwacker on walkabout spots it makes no sense. How does it exist 
any more "real" for you then than it did before it was spotted?





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