[MD] Science and Values

[MarshaV]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Krimel" <Krimel at Krimel.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Science and Values


>> [Arlo]
>> This struck some MOQ chords with me.
>>
>> http://www1.umn.edu/ships/ethics/values.htm
>>
>> [Marsha]
>> It's a very fair article. Thanks for posting it.
>>
>> [Krimel]
>> Is that fair as in one thumb up and one thumb down? Or fair as in just? I
>> thought it was excellent and fair as in just. It would be hopelessly
>> optimistic to think Platt would find an answer in it to his repeated
>> confusion about the scientific answers to childish "Why?" questions. But
>> the answer is certainly there.
>>
>> I thought his "cognitive resources" sounded identical to Pirsig's
>> intellectual glasses and found this particularly to the point:
>>
>> "An individual's cognitive resources will be drawn from his or her
>> culture,
>> limiting what any one person can contribute to science. Further, because
>> each person's biography and intellectual training are unique, cognitive
>> resources will differ from individual to individual, even within the same
>> culture. Hence, one may well expect disagreement or variation in
>> interpretation in any scientific community. Far from being an obstacle to
>> developing consensus, however, the variation of a community can be a
>> valuable resource. That is, only conclusions that are robust across
>> varying interpretations will tend to be widely perpetuated"
>
>
> Krimel,
>
> I cannot worship science any more than I can worship god.  It was fair.
>
> Marsha
>
> Marsha,
> Now there's a Buddhist answer if I ever heard one. I humbly unask the
> question Mistress.
> Krimel


Krimel,

Science has screwed women royally.  They're still screwing woman royally. 
Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of totally unnecessary hysterectomies, 
mastectomies and cesarean births.  None of these things have happened to me, 
but I know the score.  The medical establishment is not snipping away balls, 
of course.  Men get Viagra.  And I only need to spend an occasional day at 
my son's to see the pharmaceutical ads on the television.  Give me a break!

I am not a scientist, but I do get awed by the photos from the Hubble 
Telescope.  I get goosebumps reading of the double-slit experiment.  There's 
much in science that I find beautiful and amazing.  Much you shared with me. 
But it could never serve as a surrogate for truth.  Not for me.

Reading your posts I get the impression you worship science.  I find that 
sick!

Marsha