[MD] The tetra lemma

[Ron Kulp]

> Hi Ron, 
> 
> Do you think betterness exists and can be sensed?
> 
> Hello Platt,
> I think better-ness is the act of exceeding standards
> in the way of valuing the spirit of those standards over the
> letter of those standards. 
> I think better-ness, as intellect, is conditional to the level it
> applies to.
> I think we are better-ness.
> 
> to sense it is to "be"

Platt:

I take that as a "yes" to my question. 

To follow up, do you agree with 
Pirsig?

"In the third box are the biological patterns: senses of touch, sight 
hearing, smell and taste. The Metaphysics of Quality follows the
empirical 
tradition here in saying that the senses are the starting point of
reality, 
but -- all importantly -- it includes a sense of value. Values are 
phenomena. To ignore them is to misread the world." (SODV) 

Ron:
Depends on the way you understand the term value to mean in this
statement,
are we talking biological value, social value, intellectual? value
in terms of a general universal? that's a broad spectrum of meaning
for one term. Value is the process of a complex bonding and decay.
to ignore this process and it's patterns is misreading the world.
To ignore dynamic Quality and cling to the static is to increase
 distortion. Static Quality is a distortion of dynamic quality.

In this way I agree with the statement.