[MD] Gun smoke in the shape of a fake letter and not a mushroom cloud

[Ian Glendinning]

DMB said ... to Platt,
Yea, that was pretty much what Ian said.

I said nothing of the sort. I explicitly said I 100% agreed with you
DMB, and asked another question about that one individual.

Please stop the ad-hominem attacks DMB.
Ian

On 8/7/08, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> dmb said:
> ...Obama's intelligence, humor, clarity and centerness are very impressive. Its a real breath of fresh air after nearly 8 years of drivel and lies. He was always against this stupid war. He's against stupidity in general. Yesterday he said something about the Republicans that really warmed my heart. He said something like, "These guys think its funny to mock what's true. (Properly inflated tires save gas.) Its like they take pride in being ignorant." The crowd applauded, cheered, rose to their feet for a standing ovation and laughed pretty hard too. ...
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> Platt replied:
> Thank you Paris Hilton -- like totally awesome. The Messiah has come. Let us all worship the Messiah. But first, make sure you tires are properly inflated.
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> dmb says:
> Yea, that was pretty much what Ian said. You guys should go to a drivel festival together.
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> And speaking of stupidity. Notice what's being mocked here. According to Platt and Karl Rove's other parrots, Obama's popularity could hurt him in the election. (Thanks, Jon Stewart) When did charisma and intelligence become a character flaw, anyway? They think he has a messiah complex because he thinks there are solutions to "global" warming. It has nothing to do with the scope of the problem, they think. His concern with the rise in sea levels is just megalomania.
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> The Paris Hilton comparison is even stupider. It doesn't even deserve a mocking response.
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> Apparently, Platt and Rush Limbaugh's other parrots define "elitist" as a person who does NOT take pride in being ignorant. When you grow up in the middle class and then go on to graduate from Harvard Law, win a Senate seat and then the Democratic Party's nomination for President, you are not an "elitist". You're just an excellent dude. He is elite in terms of personal accomplishments, but "elitists" are those who advocate "elitism". Being popular, talented and accomplished is not at all the same as advocating the return of an aristocracy or any kind of top-down government. Even within the parameter of debate in a democracy, his political stance is approximately the opposite of elitism. In contemporary America the major business owners are the closest thing we have to a ruling class. They own most of the country and spend quite a lot of cash in the capital to make sure things go their way. I wouldn't call him a populist but one of Obama's central concerns is to get that cash
>  out of the capital on the premise that it drowns out the voice of the people. This is an attack on actual elitism, not the imaginary kind. Sadly, all this ignorant squawking about elitism is, in effect, an attack on meritocracy.
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> I guess that's why nobody is calling John McCain an elitist. He's the son of an Admiral and went to an elite school (the US Naval Academy) and his policies favor the financial elite that effectively runs the country but he graduated third from the bottom of his class. So he's just a regular Joe Sixpack. Sure, his wife owns the beer company and he doesn't actually like beer, but hey, he's not too bright and he strikes a lot of macho poses when talking about foreigners so he's our kind of guy.
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