[MD] The tetra lemma
Ron Kulp
RKulp at ebwalshinc.com
Fri Aug 8 06:53:47 PDT 2008
>
> Platt:
>
> I take that as a "yes" to my question.
>
> To follow up, do you agree with
> Pirsig?
>
> "In the third box are the biological patterns: senses of touch, sight
> hearing, smell and taste. The Metaphysics of Quality follows the
> empirical
> tradition here in saying that the senses are the starting point of
> reality,
> but -- all importantly -- it includes a sense of value. Values are
> phenomena. To ignore them is to misread the world." (SODV)
>
> Ron:
> Depends on the way you understand the term value to mean in this
> statement,
> are we talking biological value, social value, intellectual? value
> in terms of a general universal? that's a broad spectrum of meaning
> for one term. Value is the process of a complex bonding and decay.
> to ignore this process and it's patterns is misreading the world.
> To ignore dynamic Quality and cling to the static is to increase
> distortion. Static Quality is a distortion of dynamic quality.
>
> In this way I agree with the statement.
Platt:
A few questions. A "bonding and decay" of what?
Ron:
We can only observe the process so I have no idea of what it actually is
in fact I am not able to conceive of it.
Platt:
Should I not "cling" to the
static pattern called "mind?"
Ron;
when I say cling, I mean not able to let go, when we freely
use or not use static patterns we do it for convenience
with a broader intent.
Platt:
How does DQ "distort" what it has created?
Ron:
Dq does not create, it is. perception of it is a distortion of it.
so if we observe the process of patterns and not the form of them
we gain a more accurate understanding.
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