[MD] Gun smoke in the shape of a fake letter and not a mushroom cloud
Khaled Alkotob
khaledsa at juno.com
Fri Aug 8 08:21:27 PDT 2008
Ian
I see where you are going with this, which echoes something I brought up
here before: Would you rather have a "just and fair" monarchy, or a
democracy that is broken.
the issue came up when the discussion was hot and heavy about invading
other countries and exporting our red white and blue democracy to them.
My arguments was that if the people are happy and love their ruler ( king
or otherwise) who are we to say that they must change.
Just watch a few minutes of CSPAN between a US congress in session and
the British parliament in session. The British parliament discussion get
straight to the point and counter point, the us congress discussion goes
something like this
Sen A:" I would like to thank the gentleman form South Carolina for
yielding his time, Mr. speaker, I would like to ask for 5 more minutes"
Speaker: " Five more minutes are given to senator A. No wait the
gentleman from North Dakota will also yield his 5 minutes to senator A"
Senator A: " I would like to than the gentleman form North Dakota
and.....................................
and so it goes. Sit there with a stop watch and time these people. Listen
to them count the votes, listen to them pander to the public.
Any way, back to the meat of the matter. Our system is broken, and only
those who can Afford to run, will run. Lobbyist and financiers are more
than glad to oblige. That said, The US system, is for the most part built
on checks and balances and the truth, for the most part, does come out in
the end.
Once they are in DC, they morphe into something that their constituents
don't recognize anymore.
The word Elite is in a way taken out of context here. You can say that
the Green Berets are an Elite troop. They have been better trained,
equipped, have a better intellect than an average army personal and
that's why they are used in special ops
To call a politician an elitist, is wrong, from an etymology point of
view. They may have been elected, but that does not mean they are
leaders, problem solvers, or fit to be president.
Yes you are right, we got idiots that we can't shake off
Just yesterday they voted to keep adding ethanol to Gasoline
It takes 5 Gallons of Diesel fuel and other carbon based energy to
produced 4 gallons of Ethanol.
Democracy at work.
Also you have to blame the public, for falling asleep at the wheel. Ever
Watch Jay Walking with Jay Leno??? Yeah these are your fellow citizens
Khaled
[Ian]
> Hi Khaled,
>
> It wasn't me this time but I keep slipping the word "elitist" into
> the
> conversation (with a "cough" or scare quotes), because it is a
> difficult subject to discuss without getting all emotional - and
> people "mocking truths" to avoid real arguments, which is the
> actual
> subject here.
>
> There is a difficult question I keep raising (and then being mocked
> and accused of muddying waters when I do), which is "who decides" ?
> (beyond the few individual voting opportunities in an electoral
> system).
>
> So people have more decision-making power (to influence all our
> lives)
> than others. We care who those people are, what they base their
> decisions on and how much power they have. But we can't pretend the
> situation doesn't exist.
> Ian
>
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