[MD] Gun smoke in the shape of a fake letter and not amushroomcloud

Ian Glendinning ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Fri Aug 8 11:11:02 PDT 2008


Hi Marsha,

Agreed again.
"I don't fit in anymore, and I don't care that I don't fit in."

Me too. This is the "irrational man" (or woman in your case) choosing
to be different - if people want "fit" (ie quality) then the world
needs to change, not you. It's the only way the world changes for the
better.

Ian

On 8/8/08, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Ian,
>
> I am disconnected from the network and cable television.  These days I
> rarely listen to C-SPAN on satellite radio.  I only occasionally check a
> couple of blogs.  I WILL KILL IF YOU TOUCH MY iPod!!!  In truth, I will only
> care if the MOQ falls to the passe side of the intellectual divide.
>
> I don't fit in anymore, and I don't care that I don't fit in.
>
> It was a good piece.  Platt was right on track to point to it.
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Glendinning"
> <ian.glendinning at gmail.com>
> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:39 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MD] Gun smoke in the shape of a fake letter and not
> amushroomcloud
>
>
> > Read that again Marsha, it really is good.
> >
> > I will be linking and blogging more on this.
> >
> > The great point for me is the "one-upmanship" angle, not just that
> > even Gladwell is the wrong side of the divide, even the iPhone, even
> > Kindle, even every a.n.other web-blog-wiki-aggregator ....
> >
> > My line has always been "twas ever thus" - fashion in what passes for
> > intellect has always been just that - fashion - always. What has
> > happened recently - since McLuhan pointed out that medium IS the
> > message (long before Brooks does here) - is that the pace of media has
> > risen to levels that human psyche has not kept pace with. We are ever
> > more failing to see the difference between intellect and the
> > appearance of intellect in the (electronically) changing fashions
> > around us.
> >
> > The "game" switches so fast we human brains struggle to tell whether
> > we are dealing with odd or even levels of irony at any given time.
> > Rich stuff. What did Rorty say about Irony ? .... I may be some time.
> > Ian
> >
> > On 8/8/08, Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Marsha (and Platt) didn't spot that ...
> > >
> > > Excellent piece.
> > >
> > > Let's however not allow the "mockery" of elitism to make it a taboo
> > > subject for constructive debate - a meme too far. Just remember how
> > > "unfounded" our intellect really is, whilst we use it.
> > >
> > > This stuff is right on topic IMHO.
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > On 8/8/08, MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Platt Holden" >
> <plattholden at gmail.com>
> > > > To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:54 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Gun smoke in the shape of a fake letter and not a
> > > > mushroomcloud
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > All those interested in cementing your elite status be sure to read
> > > the
> > > > > column by David Brooks in today's NY times entitled "Lord of the > >
> Memes."
> > > > > Hilarious, but true -- for example, his last line: "Remember, > >
> cultural
> > > > > epochs come and go, but one-upmanship is forever."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/opinion/08brooks.html?hp
> > > > >
> > > > > Platt
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very humorous!!!
> > > >
> > > > David Brooks in a good guy.  In this case also hilarious.  I couldn't
> > > > dislike him even when I tried.   According to the new standards, I'd >
> rather
> > > > be as ordinary as dirt.   -  Marsha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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