[MD] What is SOM?

Horse horse at darkstar.uk.net
Tue Aug 12 01:11:05 PDT 2008


Hi Arlo

What you've described here really is an 'Oops' answer to a theory. Nice one.
I'm just surprised that Platt hasn't noticed!

Horse

ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:
> Ham,
> 
> Again, its all well and good that you bypass the issue by saying "it doesn't
> concern me" (although how a theory that emphasizes man's unique consciousness
> cannot account for its existence in any way other than simply saying "it exists
> now" is beyond me), but you take it the extra step by actively dismissing
> theories of the evolution of consciousness that don't agree with your
> particular worldview. You dismiss socialization theories as wrong, as you did
> with Joe, but offer nothing in alternative. If you truly have nothing to say on
> the matter, and are indeed unconcerned with an evolutionary account of
> consciousness, then why so adamantly denounce social theories? And if you do
> denounce then, Ham, then have something to offer as an alternative.
> 
> It is not enough to just say "socialization theories are wrong, but aside from
> that I have no explanation and no concern for the evolution of consciousness".
> Well, it seems to be enough for you, but that seems to me to be more of a
> "can't accept social but realize anything else I propose would be ridiculous"
> posturing. So I say, until you can offer something better, or some alternative,
> you really can't denounce socialization theories of consciousness. 
> 
> And this, Ham, is one of the reasons why I dismiss your thesis.
> 
> Arlo
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