[MD] SOM, what it is
gav
gav_gc at yahoo.com.au
Tue Aug 12 19:35:10 PDT 2008
i think that natural language - language sensitive to and redolent of the sensuous world of phenomena - and a new level of precision in how we communicate ( a la mckenna ) are actually inseparable.
--- On Wed, 13/8/08, Matt Kundert <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: Matt Kundert <pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MD] SOM, what it is
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Received: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008, 11:42 AM
> Hey,
>
> I don't pay attention much anymore, but I saw this:
>
> Ron said:
> Why Essentialism seems so difficult to break from resides
> in the grammar of our language, the logical predication and
> ordering of concepts as laid out per Aristotle based on
> those assumptions. But as Dmb says that is broken once
> essentialism is rejected and natural language remains.
>
> Matt:
> I would warn away from the idea of a "natural
> language." You don't need it for any of the things
> that you (or DMB, for that matter) are trying to say. I
> don't think it can really pan out (much the same way any
> other assertion of a "real" X over an
> infectious/appearance Y--all just part of Plato's
> essentialism). Better to stick to the idea that we need a
> new and better language, not to get back to how language
> really would be naturally (how would you know it if you saw
> it?).
>
> Matt
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