[MD] Falling out of Time/Scace

[gav]

okay...i see.
well i guess technically speaking everything that has happened or will ever happen happens 'now'. that is the now contains all temporal events.
so...in theory it may be possible to travel back/forward in time, in some manner of speaking. 
i don't think you can get separated from time - the eternal is what encompasses and sustains time - infinite time if you like. to be timeless is to be in eternity - the basic primordial flux devoid of any conceptual differentiation. maybe we visit this dimension in dreams....perhaps thatiis what it feels like to be a time traveller.



--- On Mon, 18/8/08, Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com> wrote:

> From: Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>
> Subject: Re: [MD] Falling out of Time/Scace
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Received: Monday, 18 August, 2008, 8:30 AM
> I was thinking more along the line of becoming actually
> disconnected from
> space time. You are sounding more like Donnie Darko kind of
> unstuck or Adian
> Quinn in the Jacket kind of unstuck. I mean what if you
> could move your
> existence along the temporal dimension like Dr. Who does.
> Back and forth. In
> time.
> 
> 
> heya,
> 
> > So conceptually, abstractly how would your perceptions
> be
> > changed if you
> > fell out or became unhinged from time/space in say, a
> non a
> > priori way?
> > 
> 
> time is subject to dilation/contraction, depending upon
> your state of mind.
> when meditating time seems to lose its linear regularity.
> two hours can seem
> like a lot shorter. same sorta thing with marijuana or acid
> - time dilates.
> 
> being 'in the zone' is one name for a non-linear
> time experience. when in
> the zone' it seems like one has plenty of time - to see
> the ball etc. time
> is slower for you than for your non-zoned opponent.
> 
> i suppose that extreme meditators get close to a no-time
> experience - for
> the 'now' is eternal.
> 
> 
> so i don't think you explode...or if you do it is a
> subtle explosion.
> 
> 
> > How might it affect your flow rate?
> > All at once?
> > Wouldn't you explode?
> > Conceptually speaking of course.
> > Krimel
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > Gav said:
> > time and space are patterns abstracted from
> experience,
> > like all others.
> > they are not a priori categories of perception a la
> kant.
> > 
> > in other words time and space, inextricably linked of
> > course, are perceptual
> > constructs. they are conceptual.
> > 
> > this is why time flows at different rates dependent
> upon
> > the state of the
> > perceiver. 'to see eternity in an hour...'
> > 
> > time is so everything doesn't happen at once.
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 18/8/08, Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > I would say that Dr. Who has some of the best
> > speculation
> > > available on that
> > > question. He has been bouncing back and forth
> across
> > his
> > > own time line for
> > > what; 30 something years now? Unless I am
> mistaken he
> > is
> > > locked along the
> > > same time continuum for some reason of another.
> But
> > > didn't he skip into
> > > another timeline once or twice?
> > > 
> > > STNG did a great episode that was like. the many
> > worlds of
> > > Worf, once.
> > > Worf's of many different quantum worlds
> appears at
> > > once. I recall that
> > > Voyager's from two timelines met and
> eventually
> > one of
> > > the Janeways had to
> > > sacrifice her crew and ship to save the other.
> > > 
> > > If I really fell out of time/space I am not sure
> if
> > > experience would even be
> > > sequential.
> > > 
> > > I don't know! Where do you guys think you
> would be
> > if
> > > you fell out of
> > > time/space?
> > 
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