[MD] Social & Intellectual Levels

[MarshaV]

At 11:09 AM 8/18/2008, you wrote:
> >Some virtues (a virtue is a character trait or
> >character quality valued as being good)
> >recognized in various Western cultures of the world include:
> >
> >acceptance
> >awareness
> >balance
> >beauty
> >benevolence

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> >understanding
> >unity
> >unselfishness
> >wisdom
> >



>Marsha:
>Your list of nice sounding words are abstract
>symbols alright.  That would make them patterns,
>but big deal.  They can be social patterns
>(goals) that your parents or the church drummed into your sweet little
>head.
>
>Ron:
>analytics are also social patterns that are drummed into our sweet
>little heads.
>the church is builton analytic, school...ect..

If the patterns of value you listed are followed blindly they are of 
lower value than those intellectually (consciously (as opposed to un- 
or sub-conscious)) chosen using intellectual, not social, skills.


>The problem, as Pirsig said, IS that perception that all those
>nice words are just that, words. They are not. They are values.

Words are conceptual patterns (values).


>Values derived from biological patterns, high quality biological
>patterns, those silly words are the values that have ensured the
>survival of our biological patterns and consequently follow
>through in our social level patterns which comprise and compose
>our intellectual level patterns.

"Silly"?  I never used the word silly  -   Now you are stacking the 
argument with words that favor your points and discredit mine.

It's all value.


>  Else Analytics wouldn't amount to a hill of beans,
>it would hold no value. Analytics embodies most of
>those silly words, it's value is based on them,

Followed blindly?  Or thoughtfully?   Which has a higher value?


>Analytic is seen to be fair and balanced with
>no bias it is thought to be impartial and "objective"
>without social value analytic doesn't mean diddly.

Seen by some, or all, to be fair and balanced?  Seen by some or all 
to be without bias?   I recently mentioned that I came to this forum 
with a bias against logic.  -  I think you might be thinking from 
your own prejudice.  Prejudice comes in all colors and sizes.



Marsha



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