[MD] Shit Happens. What to do?

Joseph Maurer jhmau at sbcglobal.net
Tue Aug 19 10:57:25 PDT 2008


Hi Krimel and all,

I was raised on a farm and horseshit, cowshit, bullshit, pigshit,
outhouseshit, chickenshit rabbitshit ratshit and mouseshit (a little shit)
was all put in a manure spreader to put on the field to help the wheat grow.
I guess what I take from "Shit Happens" is what you do with it, besides
playing with it.

Joe 


On 8/19/08 8:50 AM, "Krimel" <Krimel at Krimel.com> wrote:

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>> [Krimel]
>> The simplest statement of my metaphysics is:
>> Shit Happens!
> 
> gav said:
> all is not trial and error. there is communication, and there is imitation.
> learning is not random.
> 
> shit. even randomness ain't random. randomness doesn't exist!!!!!!!!!!!
> because meaning cannot be divorced from experience
> 
> Krimel relied:
> 
> Zat so?
> 
> Well all kinds of Shit happens.
> Good shit 
> Bad Shit
> Sensible and senseless shit
> Static and dynamic shit
> 
> Communication, imitation and especially learning all involve:
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> Checking things out,
> Messing with them and
> Seeing what happens.
> 
> There is a bit of the random in every thing that exists but the formula for
> making "meaning" out of it is:
> 
> Check it out
> Mess with it
> See what happens
> 
> Krimel should have added:
> I agree that randomness isn't random.
> But I would say that is why randomness exists.
> Strange attractors are encroachments on randomness.
> Islands of probability floating in chance
> 
> "Static qualities" describes them well.
> Bits of calm amidst turbulence
> They ripple ponds
> Wave from dunes
> They ripen with the seasons
> 
> Spiraling thorough the cycles
> As life and death strobe renewal at each iteration
> at each iteration
> at each iteration
> at each iteration
> at each iteration
> 
> They come and go
> Static is as static does.
> 
> Randomness can not be driven from a relationship.
> 
> But randomness can be distinguished from uncertainty.
> Randomness is specifiable
> Uncertainty is not.
> 
> Phenomenologically, randomness surrounds us.
> It is we who "'are' uncertain".
> Uncertainty isn't about randomness.
> Randomness is just shit happening
> 
> Uncertainty isn't about what "is"
> It's about "What to do?".
> I'd suggest checking it out, messing with it and seeing what happens.
> 
> That's how meaning emerges from experience.
> Meaning is reduction in uncertainty.
> Try it you'll see what I mean.
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