[MD] is-ness

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Tue Aug 19 23:04:17 PDT 2008


At 07:08 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote:

>Marsha:
> > I charm the pants of young and old, and love them all.
> > That's not what I mean.
> > I do the best that I can.
>
>SA:  I know you do the best you can.  I can tell by your posts.  Not 
>only your gumption, but your ability to sustain the clarity in your gumption.
>
>Marsha:
> > I miss full-moon nights around the fire.  Drums beating,
> > sparks raising, chanting...   Orion lying low in the sky.
> > You, my friend, are a treasure.
>
>SA:  "Orion lying low in the sky", that's a great memory.  I 
>remember nights where I saw that.  Isn't that later at night?  It's 
>been awhile and where I live now, the only part of the sky I see is 
>straight up with the hills and trees in the way.  I used to live 
>where fields mixed with woods and the horizon was far and wide.  I 
>would see the sun clearly come up and go down.  Now when I see the 
>sun the day is into the middle of morning or late afternoon 
>still.  I feel a kinship with you and I don't like making promises, 
>especially with visitations, but my wife and I want to somebody 
>visit Maine and you location would be along the way.  It would be 
>some years from now before we do probably, but it is a thought that 
>is crossing my mind.  Of course our son would be with us.  He'll be 
>two in September.  I don't want to impede or say something out of 
>place by bringing this up.  The thought of it though does suggest to 
>me that you too would be good company to  visit as a good friend.

Two separate events.  The pagan community is great for fire/drum 
circles.  These people mostly are very connected to Nature, and 
celebration is always around a season or the moon.  It's 
refreshing.  I also would attend a Rites of Spring celebration in 
Western Massachusetts with the EarthSpirit people.  Every night an 
all-night fire-drum circles.  I am so a fire-person, and these 
circles were just wonderful.  I'd sometimes stay up all night.

http://www.earthspirit.com/index.html

Also, from the area and local university, a group would meet every 
full-moon at a local park.  A small hike up a hill into the woods, 
and then there would be a fire, drumming, chanting, story-telling and 
etc.  They were mostly young, but not all.  This is where I got the 
shrooms.  Didn't ingest at these events, but home where I prepared a 
proper ceremony per my personal preferences.

I would like to meet everyone on this list.  It would be nice to have 
you and your family visit.  I like the idea of talking face to 
face.  Just please give me a couple days notice.


>       Ron, your closer, and I sometimes think about a visit with 
> you somewhere too.
>       I've fallen into a very fortunate situation where the cost of 
> day care was taking over 95% of my paycheck and my wife recently 
> got the job of her childhood dreams, so, I'm a stay at home 
> father.  Today was my last day at work.

This is great.  My son is able to spend time with his son.  He's an 
attentive father.  It's wonderful.  Hurray for you, your wife and 
your little boy.


>My first course of intention is to visit the family relations that I 
>usually only see once or twice a year during the holidays for an 
>afternoon.  I want to help strength the bonds of the family.  We all 
>live pretty far from each other.  Not too far, but far enough that 
>visiting frequently turns into a big effort.  I'm a big family 
>person, and I've checked into the family heritage and where people 
>have come from the clothes they used to wear and such, and now I 
>want to give back, contribute somehow as to give gratitude to my 
>family for the love I feel for them.  Now is my chance.

I left my family home when I was very young.  I'm from Michigan, but 
have been living in CT since I was eleven.  I keep in touch mainly 
through memories.  My mother is now the family matron and does still 
connect with all my cousins.  Yes.  Love.





>Marsha:
> > Bo and Ham are great.  I've learned from both of them.
> > They both
> > care.  They have a different MOQ point-of-view from mine.
> > That's
> > fine.  I like diversity.  They both make me think.  And I
> > do like to think.
> > But that biology-thing is pretty cool too.
>
>
>SA:  I've been pushed aside by them too much, and they don't try to 
>mend events.  Even though I have for years with them.  I don't 
>know.  You've softened my heart Marsha, thanks.  I needed that.

I doubt that you needed that from me.  You wrote "love everyone you 
meet".  Maybe that seems hard to do when you're looking at a monitor 
and discussing philosophy, but it doesn't need to be.


>As to the biology-thing?  The woods provide a way for me to 
>think.  The quiet woods are the diamond [aka diamond (quiet) sutra 
>(woods)].  Maybe that clears this up a bit.  It's all about thinking 
>for ourselves, being creative, and as we have more and more time in 
>this creative spirit of the summer woods, as I pointed out to my 
>wife who while on a walk, we stopped by a flowing stream to give our 
>son a moment to play in the small trickling of water, my wife 
>started to weave cattail leaves for the fun of it - spontaneously - 
>it is wonderful indeed what we can do to keep with the 
>beautification of this world if given a little bit of time.

I think you must be a writer, and I like what you bring to this 
forum.  I sometimes think you are not real, but a character you've 
invented.  That would still be you, but a created you.  That's my 
imagination.  Well, we all create ourselves.  We pull together many 
of these patterns.

I haven't been hiking in a very long time.  I've been thinking I want 
to get my grandson on a trail.  I've taken him around his yard to 
explore the trees, plants & animals.  I taught him the word 'tree' 
when he was a baby.  It was so interesting.  Tree, trunk, branches, 
bark, leaves, green leaves, red leaves, insects living in tree, birds 
resting in tree, birdhouse in tree, sticks from the tree, and even 
peeing at tree (only once).  We learn together.

This is philosophy too.  I think that's what you've been 
suggesting.  Not just the mental work, living itself.

Have any of you guys been riding this season?  I miss being on the 
back of a bike.  My heart beats fast every time I see a biker.  And I 
was totally envious of that 84-year-old woman who still rides 'as 
much as possible'.

Marsha





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