[MD] What is SOM?

[Ron Kulp]

Bo 

21 Aug. you wrote:


> Ron:
> How do you conceptualize the DQ/SQ schism? If I remember correctly, by
> your interpretation,SQ is all we may know, DQ is indefinable. 

Bo:
The MOQ postulates (conceptualizes) a DQ/SQ schism. It says 
that DQ is the source from which the inorganic level (as its first 
creation) sprang. The rest of the levels spring from the level below 
"egged on" by the DQ that saturates all existence. (I like the 
wave/water example, the waves are static forms of dynamic water)  
SQ is definitely "all we may know", I believe that is MOQ's central 
tenet.  


The MOQ is the DQ/SQ reality. Full stop!. Pirsig originally said that 
the MOQ is an intellectual pattern, meaning a theory about Quality, 
but THAT violates his own container logic, it violates the MOQ too 
by creating a "QUALITY//DQ/SQ" metaphysics. He abandoned it 
later by saying that Quality=DQ, but in the "Summary" from 2005 
he repeated the old sentence again, that which DMB clings too 
and makes the MOQ a SOM subsidiary ...a mere subjective 
theory.

Ron:
Seems as if you postulate that the MoQ is the extension of the
objectivism
of SOM. Essentially you are changing the terms in which objectivism is
defined and positing THAT as reality, while retaining the old definition

as a "subset", interesting.
When you make the statement:
"The MOQ is the DQ/SQ reality. Full stop!". 

You literally mean you conceive the MoQ as reality. That when we speak
of
it here we are speaking about how reality actually functions universally
and absolutely as DQ/SQ, that SQ is actual form in the DQ sea.

If I could ask you another question, do you understand form(SQ) 
to be created and acted upon as separate and 
distinct from DQ? 
you do define it as a "schism". 

Thanks for the patience Bo, I want to really understand you
before I make any more critiques.














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