[MD] is-ness
Ham Priday
hampday1 at verizon.net
Fri Aug 22 02:04:40 PDT 2008
Arlo --
[Ham said]:
> Free-thought association, introspective revelation, acorn pancake recipes
> and poetry fill the void of philosophic thought.
[Arlo asks]:
> Does this mean you are ready to answer the question "Is consciousness
> hereditary?"
What part of my comment relates to heredity? Your persistence on this line
of questioning borders on the pathological. Apparently you won't quit
until you can satisfy your need to find a biological ground for
consciousness. Tell me, Arlo, when you look at the bright moon on a clear
night, do you insist that astronomers tell you that the moon is
incandescent? Because that's what you're asking me to do with
consciousness.
Your perspective of reality is entirely objectivist, which is unfortunate
for someone concerned with philosophy. For you, nothing is "real" unless it
can be attributed to a material thing. Thus, you look for consciousness in
the plasma of gray cells and their synaptic processes. But you won't find
it there. Even Pirsig wrote in LILA that "there is no direct scientific
connection between mind and matter."
All your questions relate to the physical organism, on the false presumption
that consciousness is physiological (or sociological). Yes, the human body
and its organic components have evolved from primordial creatures, just as
your telephone receiver, its wires and transfomers, were fabricated for a
specific function. But the caller's message is not in these components any
more than your consciousness is in your brain and nervous system. So your
evolutionary questions are irrelevant, and there is no point in reinventing
biological evolution. This is not an "evasion" of your questions. Since
I've already conceded that the "being" of awareness is objectivized as
substance in transition, I'm not about to revise Darwin's theory in order to
accommodate consciousness.
Instead, I'll say once more: Consciousness is not a substantive thing -- not
a biological or social organ or any combination of such things.
Consciousness is the primary awareness of a knower, irrespective of its
development over time or its identification with a particular physical body.
Space/time perception is a function of intellection, which is secondary to
conscious awareness and is the mode of sensory experience. Without a
knower, a living organism's sensibility is limited to non-cognizant
responses to simple mechanical or electro-chemical stimuli. This is what
distinguishes cerebrates from, say, a worm or a fly. (It isn't that
consciousness resides in the brain, but that the brain develops to support
the experiential function of conscious sensibility.)
Your remaining questions are also based on the "reality" of spatio-temporal
existence, which apparently also presumes a "moral" God:
> Why would "God" have let countless generations of early man live and die
> with an "unformed" or "underdeveloped" consciousness?
Ask Darwin. Evolution was his baby, not mine.
> Our last thread involved examining "what changed?" between
> pre-pre-primates with "no consciousness" and
> modern humans with "consciousness", which I was finally
> able to draw your answer to be "God (Whatever sits "on high")
> intervened and waved his magic wand and, poof, primates
> that did not have consciousness suddenly had it. Would you say that is
> correct?
No, I would say it's Arlo being assinine. Physical existence is process,
change in time. I've said before that nothing comes into being
instantaneously, which as an existentialist you should know. Diversity and
change are the mode of experience, not reality. What appeared to change
(experiential knowledge), and when it changed, is well documented in the
textbooks of biological researchers and anthropologists. I can't add
anything to that, except to say that morality is a human precept based on
man's experience and value sensibility. So that while value may be regarded
as an attribute of Essence, the concept of value as moralistic is man's
invention.
> Arlo wonders what Ham will "fill the void of philosophic thought" with
> here? Given that you are now advocating philosophic thought, and not
> other, lesser, forms of rhetoric, I hope your answers are devoid of such
> attempts at evasion (including uncalled for personal attacks after I had
> been nothing but civil) as in our last thread.
The only personal attack I wish for you is an acute epiphany that would
allow you to realize that your consciousness is the real Arlo and that
everything else you are aware of is Arlo's experience.
Peace,
Ham
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